Frontrunners for Democratic presidential nomination in 2028

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Don’t take it as a joke when Trump and his allies say he’ll run again in 2028

I think someone from the Trump family (Donald, Donald Jr, or maybe Lara) will be a strong contender on GOP primary ballots.

As to how that impacts who should be considered the Democratic frontrunners, it is hard to say, mostly because it is hard say who are the Democratic frontrunners regardless.

If polls show MAGA still seems to have a chance of victory, in early 2028, most Democratic primary voters will drink their castor oil and go with a moderate (my current favorite is Reuben Gallego). But if the GOP is tanking in the polls, they’ll go with their heart and make a more progressive pick.

Agree with all you say!

The point, however, is that any GOP success right now comes down to Trump. And failure comes down to Trump. It’s all Trump, all the time. They are not even trying to be a real political party, so while discussing the flaws of the Dems is fine, it has to be put in that context.

I only take it as a joke because he’ll be dead by then. I don’t think he even has the capacity to make it through the year.

I don’t. There will be no dynasty. Only Trump is Trump.

I don’t think we’ll be living in the same political order by then.

DeSantis- even more of a fascist wanna-be then trump.

Oddly- aided by the fact that MAGAs hate all EVs.

Sure. The catch is that the man is half-dead right now.

He’s not going to have a successor.

Hahaha. Have you heard of the Tesla Takedown? He’s being evicerated by the People themselves, and it’s beautiful!

Trump will be dead within four years.

Yes, oh my. Chuckles at that jackass aplenty!

Yes, perfect self-own by the Most Obnoxious Man on Mars and in the Universe.

Old Yiddish saying- “From your lips to G-ds ears!”

Yeah, Musk actually thought that if trump told his followers that buying a Tesla was a Good Thing- they’d comply. But trump isnt leading the March of the MAGA Morons- he is just trying to get in front of it. When trump told his followers at a rally to get vaccinated vs Covid- they booed him. When Vance talked about just pardoning the non-violent J6ers- as trump had mentioned before- they booed Vance.

Tesla will go under soonish. perhaps serving as a company (with another name) that runs charging stations and sells car batteries to other brands.

MAGAs wont buy them, Dems wont buy them- doesnt leave much.

I think you vastly overestimate the impact this is having. Musk is zero financial trouble.

Yeah, TSLA’s in some real peril right now, which is odd given the surge after November 5. In 7 weeks Musk has manage to inflict permanent damage to his brand. I don’t recall anything like this.

JP Morgan estimates that TSLA is going to stabilize at around half of its current value, which could potentially cost Elmo tens of billions.

So, zero financial trouble then.

I get it, I wish he would fall into ruin too, but there’s no point in deluding myself

We’re talking about the Tesla brand, which is in trouble, regardless of how many millions or billions of dollars Musk is worth.

Have you seen how emotionally fragile Elmo is lately? The entire reason they did that stunt with Trump “buying” a Tesler was because he broke out crying in the Oval Office the day his stock dropped 10%. If he goes from being #1 on the Forbes list to #5 or #6 he’s likely to have a full-blown breakdown.

Tesla has lost half its value since the election. If you can just hand-wave that away, I don’t know what to tell you. The company’s sales in Europe are deceased. The brand will never recover there.

I said nothing about Musk being or not being in financial trouble. I could survive for the rest of my life on a few mil, no problem. We don’t know if that’s true of Musk, at what point he would suffer from what level of loss, and so on. He could be in debt to the gills; he might not.

What the Tesla Takedown does do, however, is show these nazi fuckheads that we can destroy a major corporation if they fuck with us. If you think that such a result will have “no impact” on the oligarchs, then, well, again, what can I say?

“Mazel mazel, good 'tings!”

The whole White House Lawn Car Extravaganza shows how unequal to the task of fascist takeover are Orange Boy and Nazi Punk. It’s got to be one of the lamest and weakest things Trump has ever done. Oddly, it’s also one of his most human: trying to help a friend, however ineptly.

Yeah, it’s like Paul and the Fremen during the Jihad: who’s really leading whom? /scifinerd

He uses a golf cart, but that still is exercise.

The answer is probably yes, but are you aware of the Obesity Paradox?

I currently live under a competitive autocratic regime. I expect it will be a more severe one by then, with some of the leading Democratic Party figures in jail.. But it is impossible to know. Roberts and Barrett might surprise me, and put us back closer to being a flawed presidential republic.

If what you’re trying to say is that Trump is a grotesquely deformed and sexually impotent giant worm-man chimera that fancies itself a god and the only being capable of saving mankind from destroying itself, you’re probably not that far off.

He was a hell of better Mayor than the current jackass. I thought Lightfoot was dealt a shitty hand due to COVID but Johnson is horrible, thus his current 7% (holy shit!) approval rating. I would do a trade to bring Rahm back in a second.

I bet if you ran a poll on who Chicagoans would prefer as Mayor today between Rahm, Lori and the current dumbass, Rahm would take it in a walk.

But I agree, Rahm for President? It is to laugh. Maybe he could primary Durbin but I don’t even know about that.

Soon the cart will have a bunch of tubes coming in and out of his body, like a Geiger pic (Golf Salad Surgery?!).

No, interesting, thanks!

Walmart?

I’m thinking more storming of the Bastille type shit.

So… Scytale?!