Your name surely is sarcastic. Your posts are testaments to a curious mixture of pre-pubescent incomprehension and inflated entitlement combined with elderly, infirm xenophobia and inflated entitlement with none of the intellectual curiosity that “artist” implies or the empathy for the less-endowed that “starving” implies.
You, sir (or boy, or miss, or girl) are a festering puss-boil on the glans of this message board.
Right. Now I’m off to get me another drink and look at some less offensive parts of the board
That’s a pretty weak pitting for it to be in it’s own thread. Do you have a specific post you’d like to cite a problem with? Starving Artist has argued his positions with nothing but calm, collected rationality, as far as I have seen from any of his posts.
somewhere around here is about right but you really want to read more. Basically all his arguments boil down to “shut the fuck up and be quiet and maybe we’ll don’t mind then”
I’ll take you up on that, by posting something that seemed to fly over everyone’s head in that stupid, surreal thread.
That’s like the kind of bullshit that Bricker pulled before the election. ‘Whul, I was gonna vote for the black guy, but you liberals are so noisy and obnoxious I’m gonna go ahead and vote for Geezer/Airhead.’ (paraphrased)
In other words, shut up and sit down or you might hurt your cause, as if a few loudmouths negate civil rights, sanity and common decency.
Fuck you Starving Artist. You’re a very articulate idiot, but gay people don’t need you to tell them how to behave. Your “threat” is nothing but hot air. Either you’re for civil rights, or you’re not. If some gays in Amsterdam having a fun fling or a few men in pink tutus and leather in a gay pride parade are going to make you change your “mind” about gay rights, you were never seriously for them anyway.
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I like to be able to look at both sides of an argument, as well as getting a feel for the debater’s perspective. In that regard, I have absolutely zero problems with SA. I know he’s a conservative. We all know he’s a conservative. I appreciate his position on some things, others not. Selah.
I never felt like he comes off as a self-entitled prick. I think that many posters here that are pretty liberal just don’t agree with his views and slam him. I have seen him veer towards condescension at times, but many others here do also, especially when they are convinced they are right about something.
I’m certainly not trying to come off as the conservative standard-bearer or anything, but in general, he provides some counterweight to what I think is a left-leaning majority on here (or at least, the vocal minority in GD).
Ah well. It’s Christmas, I don’t have anything bad to say about anyone.
Bolding mine - there was very little of that in SA’s posts in the Dutch Gay thread. In fact by the time I’d finished reading his posts in that thread my jaw was getting carpet burns.
Just because you appear to agree with him doesn’t mean he wasn’t posting drivel.
And frankly, if your premise is non-factual, you can argue it as calmly, collectedly and rationally as it’s humanly possible to do, but you’ll still, in the end, be arguing for a premise that is factually false.
Well, the main thing on which I disagree with him there is his tendency to idealize the 50s as better than they actually were. I mean, I fully believe that the rap song is worse, morally, than the Ricky Nelson song, but they’re still in the same league.
ETA: jayjay, it seems that most of that stuff is his opinion, not facts. Can you explain how he can be factually wrong about his opinion of the relative value of American culture in the 1950s and in the 2000s?
Really, take that post as the starting point. Note that that post was from a tread on some Amsterdam gay nativity scene, not on on american culture. He’s just hijacking it.
An opinion can still be factually wrong. If my opinion is that man did not go to the moon, my opinion is wrong. If my opinion is that African-Americans are genetically inferior to European-Americans, my opinion is factually wrong. If my opinion is that the 1950s was a morally-superior time in American history, my opinion is demonstrably wrong.
I used to get pissed off at Starving Artist, but then I just started picturing him as an old man shouting, “Get off my lawn, you hippie kids!” Now I find him mostly amusing. He isn’t going to change or listen to reason, so why Pit him again? It just gives him another venue from which to spew his fact-free pontifications. Also, I have kind of grown to like him, in that way that you like the guy with the sandwich board who rants on the street corner. He’s local color.
You know what I meant.