Fuck These Sensitive Peace-Lovers, Fuck Them

The BBQ Pit
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First off, that was my bolding…secondly, uuuum, what does this have to do with Hitler? This is Saddam not Hilter. Granted he is a horible dictator but this is different and given the OP this has NOTHING to do with what you originally posted, your rant was about not not getting your damn beer.

You basically had a bitch about some chick that was reluctant to serve you your fucking alcohol while she was dealing with this fucking WAR in her head. Have a fucking heart.

HELLO, are you there, are you really reading what you wrote?

I am a fucking alcoholic and I even know the difference between bitching about getting a fucking beer and the real issues that are haunting us…YET, you sit there and blind side people with your war vs beer rant.

DUDE, get a fucking clue. You were more concerned about your beer than you were about ranting about the war/real life. The woman in question apparently has an issue with the the war that bothers her. Should we all be blind Americans and support this because you can’t get a fucking beer?

Holy Shit, I thought I was a fucked up drunk, you sir have surpassed that by leaps and bounds. This woman is apparently affected by this war and for all I know she has a loved one there.

I live in a military town, Peterson Air Force Base, Shriever Airforce Base, Air Force Academy, Cheyenne Mountain Air Force Base (aka NORAD) and Fort Carson (an Army base.)

I completely support our troops but I don’t support the war.

Give people a fucking break, that woman may very well have loved ones that have left the States.

In short, you suck. Your short sidedness (sp) really drives me up a fucking wall. I am not immune to the reality of combat and when someone is concerned I can only hope that others help out that person.

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Did you read the OP? She expressly said that she doesn’t have a loved one over there. Which means that she has no more issues to deal with over this war than anybody else does. Which means that, since she’s an employee, she needs to put that in the background while she does her fucking job. From the way the OP describes it, it sounds less like she was emotionally affected by the war than it sounds like she wanted a forum to blather her anti-war views, found the guys at the end of the bar amenable to that, and proceeded to rant and rave.

If you have relatives or friends or acquaintances in the military who may be involved, I can understand having some issues to deal with about the war. In that case, I’d cut an employee some slack. But I can’t understand why someone who isn’t in that situation would have those kind of issues over this war, and if they did I think letting them give a leftist political rant about how we ought to be spending the money putting people through art school when they should be doing their job is just ridiculous. That she expressed her views like that puts the lie to the idea that she had emotional issues to deal with.

As an aside, if you don’t have a loved one in the MidEast right now and are walking around angst-ridden about this war, you must be a very unhappy person in life. There are things far worse than this that go on everyday. Innocent people are starved to death by brutal warlords in Africa, several ethnic/tribal wars are ongoing at any moment, Palestinians and Israelis are busy killing each other as usual, and every so often we get a major country involved in a conflict about on par with this one (Grenada, Panama, Falkland Islands, etc.) This is not the frickin’ tragedy to end all tragedies here. As wars go, this one is likely to have one of the fewest casualty totals since the invention of gunpowder. You can be sensitive and troubled by war, but if you’re that sensitive about all wars, you must be a very sad person.

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“I dunno, but it’s signed MagnoliaFan.”

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Huh? I googled that to no results.

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If I was in the same situation I would have been equally pissed off. You seem fixated on the beer aspect. Would it be okay to rant about this had he waited that long for service in a restaurant, or a grocery store? How about waiting for the nurse to bring that morphine? Oh, I guess I can wait, she’s distraught over the war.

Where is the line?

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It’s a Jay and Silent Bob quote.

And I agree with the OP, wholeheartedly. She’s not being payed for her socio-political monologues, she’s being payed to pour beer. I’d have complained to the manager. At any rate, look on the bright side. You might have found out about this after you started dating her.

techchick, I see you still haven’t found that clue. Keep looking, it’s out there somewhere.

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She’s been looking for a clue since I got here a year ago. I don’t hold out any hope she’ll find one anytime soon.

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This is, of course, entirely your own fault for going to joints where the beer costs 6.70 each!

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curious, would you be so annoyed if she was ranting about how necessary trhis war is, and how all liberals are no-nothing commie pinko’s, and still took 20 minutes to get you a beer, would you be ranting in the pit?

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::yawn::

Yeah, all peace lovers are lousy waitresses…

But I heard they were all good in the sack…
Stupid rant.

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Then your view would be wrong. A customer’s whatever is never less important than a service person’s ability to vocalize anything to her friends. She’s there to do a damn job - in this case, serve drinks. If she’s so unnerved about this war that she can’t perform this basic function of her job … the PRIMARY function of her job, then she should have stayed the fuck home.

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HELLO, are you there, are you really reading what he wrote?

That was from the bartender. If war is “never” justified in her mind, then Keith had a valid point bringing up past wars we were involved in, questioning her stance on the “justification” of those wars.

“Blind side”? He posted a pit thread. He didn’t say this to the bartender, or the manager, even though he had a legitimate complaint about the service being offered.

Of course he was more concerned about getting his beer, he was … wait for it… IN A BAR!!! The woman in question does have issues and as I said earlier, if those issues prevent her from doing her primary task at her job - she should stay the fuck home.

I don’t particularly support this war, but I go to work, I do my fucking job, and I keep my mouth shut about the war until I get home.

You asked Keith if he was reading what he wrote: ARE YOU? He stated quite clearly in the OP that:

Talk about someone needing a clue!

Refer to my previous quote from the op.

Keith may very well suck, but it’s not because of his complaints here against his bartender. It is not the customer’s responsibility to ease the mind of the bartender/waitress/cashier/etc.

And it’s shortsightedness, though “short sidedness” does bring up some amusing imagery.

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Yeah, because it was interfering with her ability to do her fucking job. I’m just glad she wasn’t a nurse or doctor who’d rather blab to her friends about how all that money could be better spent when she had patients she left waiting for attention. If you’re that messed up that you can’t pay attention to your job, go home and de-stress.

Not that there probably aren’t signs of this on the other end of the political spectrum (golf as networking tool, anyone?), but I’ve seen this myself. In fact, when I was in college, the initial usage of “politically correct” that I ever heard anyone use was in reference to the fashionable leftists, the ones who would buy sweaters handmade in Guatemala if that was the repressed country of the month that it was “hip” to know about, or eat locally-produced organic tofu if that was what was being talked about. Usually they couldn’t formulate a reasonable argument to save their lives.

(By the way, I’m saying this as a fairly liberal, non-preachy vegetarian, before anyone starts thinking otherwise.)

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Damn Techchick, why do you always get bent out of shape over the silly OP’s?

Here…Have a beer. :slight_smile:

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Well, i think she probably should either take some time off work, if the situation is really affecting her that badly, or she should do her job properly. Waiting 20 minutes to get served in a bar would really suck, especially if the bartender was down the end of the bar talking.

But i have little sympathy for the OP. By his own admission, he actually brought up the topic with the bartender, and then gets pissed off when her feelings on the subject don’t mesh with his own. It’s a bit unseemly to ask a service worker about their opinion on something, and then proceed to berate them when they don’t fit into your own narrow little set of preconceptions. All she did was tell you that she felt bad, and that she was “upset,” “depressed” and “anxious.” These were simply her feelings, not an argument or a political position; and you then proceed to tell her that “perhaps her reaction was a bit much.” Who are you dictate her feelings? They may seem illogical or irrational to you, but that’s none of your concern. Ever consider that she was ignoring you on purpose because you acted like an asshole?

And the notion that just because she doesn’t have any friends or family in the military, then she has no reason to be upset at the invasion is asinine.

But the OP reveals his true colours at the end of the post:

So, because she doesn’t agree 100% with everything you say, she must therefore be “processed” and “mindless.” And it’s hardly like all this “Hip Leftist Culture” is exactly “cool” or “in” right now. In case you haven’t noticed, there’s a conservative in the White House, conservative domination of both houses of Congress, even a conservative Governor (for the first time in 30-odd years) right in your own state of Maryland. Your whining about the radical leftist invasion is pretty unbecoming and pretty inaccurate.

And you gotta love the generalizations about vegetarianism and other aspects of the “Hip Leftist Culture,” which the OP has partly backed down on but which still demonstrate his true colours. Who’s “processed” and “mindless” now?

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So an employees job that they are paid to do is less important than talking with friends?

PLEASE call me if you are ever hiring.

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Not in this George W. Bush economy, they don’t.

(And I’ll admit that “No blood for oil” is an overly simplistic slogan. But that’s only because “End the Unjust Bush Oil Robbery to Secure American Petroleum Sources for the Next 30 Years, Increase the Value of Haliburton Stock, and Reinforce American Global Superiority at the Expense of the World” is too hard to fit on a placard… :wink: )

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I would have just gotten my own beer.

(FWIW I did get up and get my own pitcher of water at a restaurant once, when the waitstaff had forgotten us and we were all thirsty from the chips and hot salsa. My workmates were appalled.)

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Hey, thanks rjung, that had nothing to do with this debate.

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This is a debate?

I thought we were just raggin’ on the weenies.

My bad.