I understand not liking Windows 10 because of installation or hardware issues, but not liking it because it’s different? I don’t find it all that different from 7 and don’t miss anything from it. Don’t like Edge? Use Chrome or firefox.
The only problem I had was that it didn’t recognize my card reader. I found the driver and now it’s fine. Win 10 is so much faster than 7. The more I use it the more I like it. I feel like I got a new computer.
About a week ago my SO and I upgraded my 82-year-old uncle’s five-year-old laptop to 10 at his request. SO did the actual work; I did all the explaining. We did warn him there could be some issues since it was five years old he might be better off buying a new one. He still wanted to try but was prepared to buy another if things didn’t go well.
They went FINE. He likes it really well and was buying stuff on eBay within five minutes. If an 82-year-old can get used to it, COME ON.
We know from past Windows experience that all changes are not better. Vista, anyone?
We can all get used to things. I have a tiny little cut on my tongue. It was an annoyance for a day, but I have gotten used to it, so it doesn’t bother me much now. But it is certainly not better than before the cut. And that is the standard we should apply.It’s different, and we can certainly get used to it. But is it better? Has it improved? Is your computing experience better than it was with Windows 7?
That’s right … Windoze is like a paper-cut on your tongue … it’s a bitch the first day but you get used to it … as long as it doesn’t get infected and gangrenous and you have to cut it out …
Meanwhile, you can go over to Apple land where they break shit with alarming regularity, will tell you to go pound dirt if you’re running something older than the previous OS release, and build their computers such that you can’t upgrade anything on them and just have to throw them out and buy new (another $1000-$3000 into Apple’s pockets!)
or you could go over to Linux, and try to use a bunch of obscure shit written by high-functioning autistics who can’t understand why you might want their program to do something you want it to do.
Luckily, while I use office a lot, I probably don’t qualify as a power user, in the sense that I generally don’t need to do extremely complicated things. I’m fine with using Styles in Word docs, and with a bunch of basic formulas in Excel, but a lot of the more esoteric and complicated tools never get used.
Even then, there were times when I had to Google certain common functions because they had moved or hidden the location of the tool. I sort of fixed this problem by putting just about all of my commonly-used functions on the Quick access toolbar.
In most ways it’s pretty much the same, but in a few important ways, yes, there are improvements.
The file explorer, and moving and copying files, works better in 10 IMO. I still tend to use a third-party file management system, but when I use the Windows system, there are definitely improvements in 10 over 7. The start menu is not only a vast improvement that was the clusterfuck of Windows 8, but is also (IMO, at least) better in some ways than Windows 7.
One thing I really like in Win 10 is the addition of virtual desktops, which allows me to work with many more open windows without cluttering the space. I used to have to use a third-party tool for virtual desktops on Windows 7, but now it’s built in with 10. Of course, it took them long enough; my Ubuntu setup had virtual desktops years ago.
One thing I notice on my Windows 10 computer is that it seems faster to start up, and for most general tasks. Now, I admit that a key reason for this might be that I also got a new computer when I moved to 10, so it could be a function of the newer hardware as well, but reviews I’ve read from various sources suggest that 10 is, overall, faster than 7 on equivalent hardware.
Also, some reviews of programs I use quite frequently, like Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop, and Handbrake, have noted faster operation for heavy tasks under Windows 10 than under 7, even with the same hardware.
As I said earlier in the thread, my wife has a Mac. She’s on her third Mac in the last 7 years now, and has gone through at least four or five iterations of OSX. The improvements made in Widonws 10, both under the hood and in the interface, are at least as significant as many of the changes we see from one iteration of OSX to the next.
No matter what the Macsturbators like watchwolf49 say.
Trying to reconnect my wifi extenders after resetting my wireless router.
Looked it up online. I need to go to “Network & Internet” and then click on Wi Fi.
Except…wait for it…THERE IS NO WI-FI TO CLICK ON.
There was a screen shot of the Network & Internet page that looked exactly like mine…except for missing the wifi button. Which I HAVE to have in order to reconfigure the WIFI extender.
Searched online and found that a lot of Windows 10 users experience this. This doesn’t help me in the least. Because there is no solution.
If you’re experiencing disk drive and wifi problems, I’m guessing maybe your computer has some drivers that aren’t compatible with the new OS. You know it saves a copy of your previous operating system for 30 days so you can roll back, right? Settings > Update & Security > Recovery
There’s nothing wrong with Windows per-se, just like there’s nothing wrong with Mac OS either.
They’re basically two different philosophical approaches to the same problem- Microsoft gives the end user more flexibility and configuration options- they have to, since there are many commercial PC makers, making both laptops and desktops, and using components from dozens of peripheral makers. I’d wager that Dell alone has more models than Apple does, and Dell is just one of several large-scale PC makers. This approach means that while Windows is more adaptable and configurable, it sacrifices some degree of security and stability, and also requires the end user to be somewhat savvy. Microsoft also does not attempt to control or restrict what software that an end-user can install and run on their PC, giving them more flexibility and utility, again at the cost of security and stability. This means that a lot of PC hardware/software is nearly state-of-the-art, because the development and release cycles are not hindered by Apple’s headlock on drivers and what-not. See high-end graphics hardware for an example of this.
Apple on the other hand, has a tightly controlled set of hardware configurations that they alone control, and they can tailor their OS to those configurations, and test it exhaustively with their short list, to make sure that it works and is stable. Plus, their software model (“walled garden”), where they essentially try to vet every single piece of software that can be run on a Mac, means that they’re more stable and secure, at the expense of being able to run anything and everything you want, and at the expense of having actual leading-edge technology.
In the PC world, integration with smartphones is done by third-parties- primarily Google, while in the Mac world, it’s done all through Apple; if you want to integrate your PC and your phone, and you have an iPhone, you pretty much have to have a Mac to do it right, and the same with Android/Google and PCs.
In the final analysis, it comes down to what you value; if you value being able to tinker, upgrade, swap parts out, etc… and have the OS support that, and you’re cool with less security and stability as a result, then PCs are your thing. If you’re a end-user who merely buys a computer every now and then, and uses it, without really ever downloading any third-party software or upgrading the computer, and value stability and security over the flexibility of being able to revamp the whole thing, then Apple’s your thing.
I don’t care for Apple, and never thought Mr. Jobs was that great; although the OSs are damn well-made and Steve wasn’t a thief. But although I wouldn’t reside in a walled garden — which is also the end-point of Microsoft integration — no-one has ever said Apple make shabby stuff.
To me, as I’ve said before, Apple design looks like crap kitchenware. But who looks at the mantelpiece when poking the fire ? Design is least important.
The 700 million or so PC-using iPhone owners would probably disagree with you. I doubt there would be that many if Apple fucked up the integration.
Either that, or PC users largely don’t care about integration. And maybe they don’t- a computer hasn’t been necessary to set up or use an iPhone in years. But there have been no widespread stories saying iCloud for Windows sucks, and iTunes sucks equally for Windows and Mac, so there you go. You don’t need a Mac to do it right.
For clarification, the “walled garden” begins and ends with iOS that runs iPhones, iPads, iPods and that goofball watch.
Laptops and desktops use OS X, and anyone can load and run anything from anywhere — malware included, except, of course, Mac viruses; they don’t exist.
OS X can load Windows code, including viruses, but nothing happens because the code doesn’t run. (I have, on occasion, been asked by Windows users to open an iffy web page to see what’s there and so they possibly can discover the problem by my emailing screen shots of the source code.)
When I subscribed a month ago, I expected from the title that there’d be maybe a few customer complaints – “sill too narrow; keep falling off”, “frame and casing warped; need to be moisture resistant”, “pane slippery, can’t get grip”, etc. – but I was mostly looking for amusing anecdotes.
I mean, who hasn’t been in a situation where the ice cream’s melting, the theater’s starting to fill up or the bus is approaching a stop and one of you says “Hurry up, babycakes, we don’t have much more time to get this done!”
Instead we’re all talking about operating systems. You guys suck.
Windows vs Mac!? Had to check that this wasn’t a zombie thread. Here’s MY beef. People who sneer “You just don’t like change.” You’re right - I don’t like change, I like improvement.
To quote the great S.J. Perelman: "Change is only great if you’re a newsboy. then it’s income.
We did warn him there could be some issues since it was five years old he might be better off buying a new one. He still wanted to try but was prepared to buy another if things didn’t go well.