Fuck you Ann, hell has a special place for you

What we do today. Prison sentences up to and including life, and capital punishment. But don’t pretend that one is more “barbaric” than the other.

One is more barbaric than the other.

Yeah.

Especially if you later find out the guy’s innocent at least you can let them out of jail. You can’t bring someone back from the dead.

IYO. I consider shutting someone up in a small room for the rest of his life a lot more barbaric.

Coulter is a shock jock. She plays people such as the OP like a Stratovarius.

But you do waste your time claiming that your opinion is an established fact.

It can’t be an established fact until somebody establishes it. Nobody has established it, least of all you.

Is it now to be known as the ‘kaylasdad’ Show?

Regards,
Shodan

Hitler comes closest to a counterexample, and not because of how vile he was. The argument is that “life in prison without parole” still leaves open the possibility that the imprisoned might be released due to favorable political winds (or sloppy parole boards), whereas if you execute them they’re dead.

Of course, Hitler wasn’t sentenced to life in prison without parole, but rather a 5 year sentence, and was let go after just a few months, in both cases due to the court’s favortism toward rightist groups (leftist rebels were of course not shown mercy.)

I agree about her writing. I’ve also seen her speak, in person, and i was actually amazed at how poor a public speaker she is. I expected the crazy and the irrational, but i thought that it would at least be lively and entertaining; in fact, it was about as sparkling as a reading of the Congressional Record.

One minor nitpick: she’s not quite 50 yet. December 8 this year, if you’re interested in sending a gift.

Maybe a Fleshlight. :wink:

How long before you stop gloating?

From past experience, I’d lay in a supply of non-perishable food and warm clothing if you’re planning to wait.

He’s not gloating. He’s insulting kaylasdad. If Dio were still here, he’d just say that kd was picking up arguing techniques from him.

If this was your attempt at a joke, then it’s below even your usual standards.

Shodan is perfectly capable of explaining himself.

What exactly is your purpose here, kid? No one needs your help in defending their assholery.

I totally do.

Ain’t nobody forcing you to read any of it, podnuh. Got my name right up top there, so you get plenty of warning. You can just pick up your little basket and skip along, skip along. I’ll get over it.

I find Wiki useful mostly as a source for other cites. I usually try to link directly to the primary source but I didn’t this time. My fault for cutting corners. I did look at the primary sources before I posted the wiki link. I’ll discuss them now.

FTR, here’s the quote from Wiki to which I was refering (it’s under the heading “Trial and Conviction”):

This is supported by three footnote citations (#32, #33, and #34). Here are three footnote citations:

This is the Amnesty paper to which Bricker referred. The Wiki quote is a direct quote from this page. (A little too directly, in fact.) While it’s true that Amnesty International is anti-death penalty, Bricker has not demonstrated that they are lying in this matter. In fact, Amnesty’s paper is supported on the Wiki page with two other citations, as we’re discussing now.

This supporting footnote leads to a CNN page which just mentions briefly Davis’ attorneys are asking a judge to stop the execution because they’re claiming that the ballistics testimony at the trial was “inaccurate and misleading”. As footnotes go, this one’s not particularly productive.

This is a press release from Georgia’s Attorney General. (Not a rah-rah press release, an FYI press release about various legal happenings.) Under the section on Davis’ case, it says:

To sum up, the Wiki link that I posted which stated that the ballistics expert wasn’t sure that the bullets came from the same gun, while taking its text from the Amnesty case, is also supported by documents from the Georgia attorney general’s office relaying official testimony.

Yeah but the shell casings are mighty thin rope. For starters, casings from both scenes were stored in the same evidence bag (Cite, about half way down). The prosecutor says it was all explained at trial, but well, he would say that, wouldn’t he?

Secondly, a review in 2003 of the ballistics evidence by a retired GBI officer said that they weren’t conclusively link. (Cite This is one of the pieces of “new evidence” that Davis wanted to discuss at his hearing. The Judge in the case didn’t allow Davis to pursue this though, saying:

Given that, it’s pretty hard to see the shell casings as physical evidence related Davis’ case, which was Coulter’s claim.

And that’s really what I’m saying here in all this: Ann Coulter is a piece of shit.

Speaking of the Ann Coulter - did you know she followed up her original tweet?

Because that’s what all this is to Coulter, the state’s execution of a citizen, it’s just a cutsey little joke she can sing to piss off the liberals.

You just need more practice, honey. :wink:

“A pickle? Why, yes, Ms. Coulter, I am quite fond of pickles. But could I pick my own right out of the jar, if you don’t mind?”

See, it’s posts like this that give me something to strive for. I, too, can be independently assholish, if I just work at it and stop relying on charity!

The tweet was in very poor taste. Everyone is in agreement on that, yes?