Yean and we waste millions doing so. The death penalty is ridiculously expensive. They’re cutting music and art classes at my daughter’s elementary school this year. How about we keep murderers behind bars and use the excess funds so my daughter can have violin lessons for an entire year instead of just half of it?
No, I’m simply stating that 99% of people will ignore what she says and be unwilling to sift through an insulting amount of garbage and read her material. Between disgusting partisan snipes at “the liberals”, Coulter makes a lot of assertions, none of them backed up with citations. I’m sorry, but if you expect me to go through and debunk that crap, then I expect you to go through and debunk the entire first chapter of “Stupid White Men”; you know, the one where Moore clearly lays out his case as to why Bush committed gross electoral fraud.
The fact is, I’m not willing to do it because Coulter is a grad A nutcase, and neither will anyone else. As said before, you might as well point to an article in the National Enquirer as evidence and say that the magazine’s previous history has no bearing on this article. No, you’re right; if the article is factual, it doesn’t matter that it showed up in the Enquirer. However, the fact that it showed up in the Enquirer and not, say, The New York Times, or CNN, or the BBC, points to the fact that it’s probably less of the caliber “Obama introduces new job bill: contents explained here” and more of the caliber “Bat-Boy lives!” And this article is especially bad because Coulter, as usual, does not cite sources at all. For all I know, she could be talking entirely out of her ass; and judging from her previous track record, I feel justified in not caring enough to find out.
Well, now that you mention it, why won’t Bat Boy release his long-form birth certificate? What is he hiding?
Keeping people in cages is not barbaric?
:dubious:
I was using hyperpole obviously. Do you have a problem with confining convicted murderers to a small cell in an unpleasant prison?
Beneath all the furor and tumult, there is a very important question that needs be addressed: eyewitness evidence. We have long held such testimony in the very highest regard. Recently, a great deal of evidence is surfacing that our confidence is misplaced, that people often do not see what is right in front of them, or remember it incorrectly.
How many people do we have in prison, or worse, awaiting execution, or worser, already executed, on the basis of evidence we have good reason to suspect?
If you cared about the facts, you wouldn’t be citing Ann Freaking Coulter.
Rapists who use condoms will be happy at this proposal.
That said, I’d be interested in a proposal that eliminated the death penalty where the only evidence was eyewitness. That way, we satisfy the goal of protecting society but don’t commit society to making an irrevocable mistake.
[QUOTE=Ann Coulter]
There is more credible evidence that space aliens have walked among us than that an innocent person has been executed in this country in the past 60 years, much less the past five years.
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Although I suppose Coulter is herself pretty credible evidence that non-humans walk among us.
New Jersey’s ahead of you. Georgia will catch up in about 150 years.
Bin Laden? Hitler? (thread closes for Godwin reasons).
How is keeping someone all his life in a small cell in an unpleasant prison not barbaric?
New Jersey is the pinacle of American jurisprudence? New fucking Jersey? Shit, Jon Stewart will never shut up about this!
No, actually quoting the tweet would have been “'nuff”.
Even then. Capital punishment is WRONG, always, and everywhere. There are no two ways about it, and the matter is not open to debate.
LOL. I love the “it is so 'cuz I say so” arguments.
Yes, even then. One can justify a person’s death, even feel a sense of relief and that the world is a safer place after, without exulting in it.
This is even more pronounced when the death is unnecessary for public safety (such as when a prisoner is in custody) and when there is even a sliver of doubt as to the guilt of the victim.
Diogenes the Cynic is gone, but his spirit lives in our hearts forever.
Regards,
Shodan
pfffft. Not because I say so. Just because it is.
Also, it’s not an argument. I don’t waste my time arguing about what are established facts.
So what should we do with convicted murderers? Tell me oh wise one.