Which would you rather have, a president who screws up, realizes it, admits it, and learns from it, or a president who screws up and throws every ounce of his power behind the original decision so he’ll never have to admit it?
Interpreting his actions in something other than the worst light possible and implying that everything he does is to fuck Republicans over would be a nice start.
I hope he starts doing things that make you apoplectic. Then I will know we are going in the right direction and have a chance of saving our country.
You did it for the last guy.
But seriously your brains would have work overtime to get to neutral…
Why can’t you fuckers understand that you had eight years of free for all and fucked the country up beyond belief. Now it’s time for you to hang your collective heads in shame and let the people who love this country all of it not just the “real” parts, try to fix the mess you got us into. Can’t you guys just fuck off already? Have you no shame? At long last have you no shame?
Your analysis of what I said is as erroneous as your apparent belief in the meaning of the word pusillanimous (alliteration is all well and good but the words used should still have their correct meaning). Just how am I interpreting his actions in the worst possible light? And how am I implying that “everything he does is to fuck Republicans over”?
I said he lectured Congressional Republicans and told them to stop listening to Limbaugh. He not only did that, but it was an extremely foolish and amatuerish thing to do. How do you think those Republicans are going to react to being publically told who not to listen to on the radio? To the implication that they are incapable of knowing what to do themselves and that they need Limbaugh to do it for them? And to the fact that they have constituencies to think about and highly resent being talked down to that way? And finally, to the fact that the remarks such as Obama made are certain only to make his Republican opponents that much more determined to oppose him? It also smacks of the ham-handedness I spoke of in which he seems to feel entitled, by virture of having won the election, to tell United States Congressmen who not to listen to on the radio. Quite a lot of gall, that!
He made the “I won the election” comment just like I said he did. I didn’t make it up or misinterpret it. And he meant it exactly the way I said he did. How is that interpreting it in the “worst possible” light?
And I never said (funny how often I have to say that around here; I need a macro) or implied that he was doing everything he could “to fuck Republicans over”. What I said was that he was operating in a ham-handed way and telling Republicans to get in line because he won the election. That’s not the way bipartisanship works.
And finally, I posted to contest the overall nature of the thread, which was to the effect that Gregg was being an unscrupulous asshole to Obama and was giving no consideration whatsoever to how things may have transpired from Gregg’s point of view – a point of view that most of the posters around here undoubtedly feel doesn’t even deserve consideration. One would think he’s supposed to sit there obediently with his hands in his lap and rubber-stamp everything Obama wants, and that to do otherwise is evidence of his betrayal not only to Obama but the entire nation as well.
Which was probably his plan all along…“See, I tried! But I just can’t work with Republicans! They’re so not willing to kowtow before me!”
I agree completely.
Do you also extend that logic to the OP’s declaration that, for the crime of backing out of an appointment, Gregg is a “arrogant, self-serving prick” and a “self-centered worm” who is would not “do the right thing for the COUNTRY as opposed to [his] own goddamn self?”
The part that kills me is the no-vote on the stimulus. Join the cabinet or don’t, but do your job for fuck’s sake. You don’t have to share my principles, but at least *have *some! Hopefully his constituents feel the same offense.
He sure is batting .1000 with his nominations. Who’s doing the vetting?
According to Chicago Public Schools own investigators, there have been 568! documented cases of illegal corporal punishment under CEO Arne Duncan’s watch. Kids were
Although Mr. Duncan said:
Only 24 were actually terminated, the rest got a slap on the wrist at best.
Say, let’s make him Secretary of Education. Squee!
So which is it, become apoplectic or fuck off? You can’t have it both ways. 
For eight years now we’ve had to listen to you bitch and moan about everything Republican/conservative and now that you’re in the driver’s seat you’re still bitching. Gregg is not necessarily a bad guy here. I know you (and apparently Obama) think he should just sit quietly in his seat and rubber-stamp everything Obama wants, but again, that’s not bipartisanship and Gregg is not a villain for not playing along with Obama’s apparent belief that he should.
No you are not.
You continually post this tripe, followed, immediately, by some sophomoric rejection of a position that Obama has not really taken, couched in the language of Hannity and Beck.
Opposing Obama is fine. Continuously pretending that you are “trying” to “wait and see” when you repeatedly condemn him simply exposes your disingenuous remarks for what they are.
And you immediately provide an example:
Nothing released by Gregg or Obama provides any indication that Obama required a rubber stamp Secretary. You simply made that up after making one more of your baseless I’m trying to wait and see claims
Pssssssst! Hey, tom – you misattributed that last quote.
You are right, I did. (I actually messed up worse than that and that was part of the fallout from trying to correct it.)
Thank you, and apologies to both Starving Artist and askeptic.
Originally posted by Shitforbrains:
Make up your mind. Is his middle name “I screwed up” or “Hussein”?
Hmmm. I wonder if moving suspected terrorists from Gitmo to the Chicago school system would be considered ‘torture’ in the Obama administration…
If Gregg really has strong philosophical objections to the President’s economic and stimulus plan, it’s probably good he is withdrawing, rather than either sabotaging it from within the department, or going along with something he believs is wrong or unwise. I know that it’s been said in this thread, “Well, he knew what Obama stood for when he was offered the nomination”, but I really don’t know if that’s true. Congressional Republicans have been pretty consistant in saying that they expected the President to back a smaller, more targeted stimulus package with greater Republican input.
Because fucknuggets like you would rather have the opportunity to slur and throw racist Hussien comments about than try to work on a solution.
Man, I teach in CPS and I never knew we could beat the crap out of our students and get away with it. Someone is gonna get an ass-whipping next Tuesday, believe you me. (Although it is weird that I have taught for 15 years and have never seen anything remotely like you describe. Hmmmm.)
IIRC, the stimulus package is 42% tax cuts. That’s a larger percentage than there are Republicans in the House or Senate. They cut two hundred billion dollars from it, and then still all voted against it.
Well, Obama’s questionable and rather shady decision to take the Census away from Commerce and move it into the White House was made after Gregg accepted the nomination. That could’ve been the deciding factor for the New Hampshire Republican.