The Pope does have a master’s in chemistry, so yeah, he kinda is.
The context definitely makes it clear that it was alcoholic wine. The Baptists do have a shadow of a leg to stand on in that ancient Greek had only a single word for grape juice or wine, as did Hebrew. There were ways of specifying whether you meant fresh wine that had barely had time to start fermenting or strong wine that had completely fermented, but since fermentation began immediately due to yeast that grows naturally on the surface of grapes, and there was no way to stop it, there wasn’t necessarily any distinction.
In Acts, the disciples, overcome by the Holy Spirit, are accused of drunkenness. They retort that this is a ridiculous charge, not because the followers of Christ abstained from alcohol, but because it was too early in the morning to be drunk! (This was the favorite verse of many of my Christian friends in collage.)
A título in chemistry is not equivalent to a US master’s degree.
We can leave that argument to another thread - in fact, it’s probably already been had in another thread. The point is that Santorum is certainly no more qualified than the pontiff (notwithstanding the endorsement he received today from Dave Mustaine).
He’s just grandstanding. You don’t need permission to play a song when you’re walking out of jail.
No, and I would go as far as to say that if I needed chemical advice and my choices were Santorum or the pope, I’d pick the pope every time. But “the pope has a master’s degree in chemistry” is factually incorrect. That’s all.
Yeah, I think Bunning recognizes that she would likely be in jail until January at the earliest when the Kentucky legislature meets, to either impeach her (which it likely won’t do) or to draft some legislative compromise (which it may or may not do.) There’s an order in place that requires her deputies to issue the licenses, which they have been complying with. It’s possible he hopes that when Kim comes back to work next week they will ignore her intimidation or that she won’t do anything drastic to try and stop them from following the order, in which case there is no reason for him to keep her held on contempt.
If she does something drastic like destroys all the printed licenses and somehow makes it so no more can be printed, or takes the the stamper away or whatever, then Bunning will have to respond.
Well, like I said, if you read the real fine print of the SBC’s official position on alcohol, they concede that use of alcohol is not sin. But they stress that the bible does mention “potential harms of alcohol and drunkenness” so they’ve basically adopted the position that one should avoid it to avoid those potential problems and “loose morality” that drinking can lead to and that their official position is you shouldn’t do it, not because it’s a sin, but because it “leads to problems”; since they are biblical literalists they can’t outright say that drinking is sin because it frankly is incompatible with a literalist reading of the bible. But many individual congregations I’ve encountered are like those Kolak describes, they don’t bother with the nuance of the national convention and just preach that it’s immoral to drink, period.
At least one of the deputies is saying this exact thing, so unless she does something like fire him for insubordination then the office will presumably be issuing licenses.
Bunning’s concern is with “Kim Davis, County Clerk” as opposed to Kim Davis, individual, so if she wants to have histrionics or roll her eyes or whatever then Bunning probably won’t care, so long as the office issues the licenses he ordered them to issue, and the theatrics don’t unnecessarily impede the process.
You do when it’s a press conference.
Yeah, it probably all comes down to whether they can be fired at will by Davis. If they’re “regular civil servants”, and Kentucky is similar to Virginia (where I was a civil servant for a time), then there is a process to remove them. That process will involve hearings and such, and if the deputies have a court order telling them to do something, I seriously doubt the civil service process will allow their dismissal.
But I can still imagine her contriving other things. As an elected official, can she order her office closed? If so she could simply close the office indefinitely. Can she seize all the stamps that you have to use to stamp a license before handing it out? That’s another option. What if she disables all the printers in her office so that no more licenses can be printed by deputies. I can see a lot of ways she can stop licenses from going out without firing the deputies (which she may be legally unable to do in Kentucky.) Will be popcorn-eating time either way when it all goes down.
I am 99% sure that state law dictates when clerk’s offices will be open. She likely has no discretion at all to close.
Not to mention Bunning said ‘No shenanigans.’ Like when they closed for ‘computer upgrades’ or whatever that was.
Even if they can be fired at will and she does so, I wonder if the judge can reverse that firing or would he have to lock her up again until she rehires that person?
hell, if the clerks (or anyone) wants her back in jail, they could easily make things seem like she was interfering.
Fortunately - she’s already on record saying she will interfere - we just need her to do it.
She is currently taking a couple days off for jesus.
She should just resign and take a cushy position at Fox News or whatever. No doubt she’ll have offers.
Even in most at-will employment jurisdictions, there’s an exception for firings which are against public policy. If your boss fires you for not following her unlawful order to refuse to perform a core function of your job description in violation of a court order, that sounds like grounds for a wrongful termination suit right there. I don’t know if Judge Bunning would have the jurisdiction to order the deputy rehired, though a state court probably would.
Prolly washing the stink of jail outa her locks.
I think this is what he’s suggesting. The ACLU fights for the prisoner’s right of religious freedom, when they are by definition evil people who don’t deserve any rights and many of whom are Muslims and so will use this freedom to pray to a terrorist god who will tell them to kill more Americans. But the ACLU won’t support the right of religious freedom for Kim Davis who is a paragon of virtue, and only wants to prevent America from falling into obvious depravity which has been foisted on them by 5 clearly evil members of the Supreme Court two of which were appointed by an antichrist from Kenya.
Yes this line of “thinking” totally misrepresents the issues involved, but it has the sort of non-critical gut level appearance of a double standard that his audience will eat up.
No, I don’t think she has the charisma to land a permanent Fox gig, she’s too frumpy looking. The best she can hope for is to milk her 15 minutes of fame for all its worth. Her best option to monetize it is to go back to jail open a fund me account and stay in jail for as long as the donations keep coming in, which will end about the same time as her being in jail is no longer news even among the christian publications (say a month or so). Then if she’s lucky she might a book deal and tour, but after that she has do go back to being just a nobody.