Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis

Oh, I don’t know. I think she’d be great as Huckabee’s VP.

Donohue, (from the Catholic League–a “league” of a half dozen office workers and anyone he can con into sending him money), is an idiot. His premise is that anyone doing anything vaguely religious should be entitled to do so and wants to accuse the ACLU of hypocrisy for not supporting Davis.

Of course, the ACLU has defended a number of people engaged n religious activities, but that is not what Davis is doing. Her action is to attempt to use her claimed religious beliefs to enforce her beliefs, (purportedly religious), on others through her power as the representative of the state. She is trying to enforce a theocratic action and that is in direct violation of the Constitution. Prisoners attempting to worship are protected by the bolded portion of the following section of the amendment:
" Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, . . ."
Prisoners wishing to pray are engaged in the free exercise of their religion.
A clerk imposing her own religious views on a bureaucratic procedure of the state is attmepting the establishment of a religion.

But, as noted, Donohue is an idiot.

Nope, GoFundMe already put the kibosh on that idea:

Well, *technically *she also had no discretion to not sign the marriage licenses…

I wouldn’t put anything past her.

She pretty much has to, or she looks like an idiot to the only people who think she’s great.

Well, she has an out - she can always ‘not interfere’ under duress and claim persecution.

Those pesky persecutors - they persecutin you either way you go.

but otherwise - I agree - she really has put herself in a postion that requires her to shenan again.

Do you think with everything going on, she’ll be that stupid?
<thinks a minute>
Do you think he will be able to claim unemployment?

The licenses they’ve been issuing since Thursday didn’t have her name on them, which was a little disappointing to me because that’s what she said she wanted at one point. (It was also disappointing because the deputies had no imagination and changed it from “Kim Davis, Rowan County County Clerk” to the tongue-twister “Rowan County, Rowan County County Clerk.” I mean come on people!)

But that does take away her excuse for interfering. Her deputies can issue licenses and her name doesn’t have to be on them. She said in the past that she’d be ok with that. There should be no logical reason for her interfering again. Not that that would matter to her or her supporters, of course.

I suppose it’s possible that there are right-wing operatives encouraging her to continue to be obstinate (“you must hold fast in the name of Christ!”) so that they can continue to milk this.

Also, fame, and the desire to remain in the limelight (and the profits that can come from all of that), can be powerful incentives for misbehavior.

I guess we’ll know in a few days what her plans are. Maybe she doesn’t even know at this point.

Technically - thats not a signature and would take legislation to make that legal - otherwise - she could have allowed that all along.

She’s on a power trip, and isn’t likely to come down.

Her signature isn’t required. See statutes I linked earlier in the thread. Her name is arguably required.

Rigth - thats kinda what I sorta meant - long day - thanks for correcting.

And when she does violate the court’s “No Shenanigans” order, I wonder if she’ll go quietly to jail. Or will there be a standoff of some kind?

Are there gay people camping out yet so they can be first in line for when she goes back to work?

'Course not. The cross would have to come down first.

She went quietly the first time. She may be a holier-than-thou scofflaw, but she’s not a violent one.

We are like sheep without a shepherd
We don’t know how to be alone
So we wander 'round this desert
And wind up following the wrong gods home
But the flock cries out for another
And they keep answering that bell
And one more starry-eyed messiah
Meets a violent farewell-
Learn to be still
Learn to be still

Actually, these days they’re allowed to stand in line without being campy.

I have decided that on any sov cit fotl or teabagger website, I shall have the user name “Rowan County”

Based on this quote from http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/09/politics/kim-davis-same-sex-marriage-kentucky/index.html

She wants the whole thing changed.

Of course, her attorney thinks that something the judge could order -

and then they mutter something about judges making new laws - and then they don’t quite understand why they look so fucking stupid.

I read the order the other day - the long one - It was a joy to read every single_ argument these people raised be shot down so effectively.