Fuck you, you carrot munching bitch

The BBQ Pit
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I’m pitting my vegetarian friend. There’s nothing wrong with being a vegetarian, but there certainly is something wrong with my (ex?) friend.

A little background info. I’ve known this friend for about five years now, and we’ve been through a lot of shit together. She’s always been the righteous kind of person. She’ll form her opinion on one thing and won’t rest until others admit that she’s “right”. She’s a follower, but she likes to believe that she’s independant and values herself as an individual. So, about two years ago, when being a vegetarian was all the hype, she decided to be a vegetarian. Some people do it to improve their health, she did it “for the animals.”

According to her, she couldn’t go through living life eating the poor animals. She just couldn’t let herself be the reason that the poor little cows and chickens die for her appetite. That was fine by me. At first, that is. About two months after she went into her vegetarian mood, I tried to evade having meals with her. She would order her rabit food, and I’d order my nice, juicy, delicious steak, but I couldn’t get through it without her shooting dirty glares at me and informing me that an animal sacrificed itself so I could eat it.

Another time, I was having chicken, and I came across a part that was a little bit overdone and I mumbled something about “Geez, this part is a little tough to cut.” and she shot me another dirty look and said “EW! Gross. Thanks for sharing.” Her tone was somewhat of a “You’re acting like you’re five years old and showing me the food you’re chewing”.

As I said, I avoid trying to have food with her around, but sometimes, it’s just unavoidable. Today, a group of us went to a restaurant to have lunch. It certainly wasn’t a fancy place, and it was after we sat down that we realized that the only vegetarian choice for our dear (:rolleyes: ) friend were a salad and the soup.

But apparently, it was okay. She ordered the fish. FISH?! The last time I remember, fish had a brain and was fully aware of the concept of pain! After the past two years of her looking down on me because I ate the cute little cows, I just couldn’t pass up this opportunity to call her on it. I asked her why she was having fish when fish were animals and could feel pain. Wan’t the whole point of her being vegetarian to avoid causing the animals pain? She answered that fish were ugly and didn’t count.

Great rebuttal eh? The rest of us just gave her a :dubious: and shrugged and ate our own stuff (she was still giving us dirty looks for eating meat). The whole conversation about her eating fish led to a discussion on her eating eggs and dairy products. She countered it with the fact that she was vegetarian and not vegan.

Honestly, it just didn’t make sense to me. She changed her diet two years ago for the sake of not hurting the animals, but she’s willing to eat the gametes of chicken and juice sucked out of cows’ udders (with dreadful machinery, at that) and even fish.

I wouldn’t be so annoyed at her about all this if she wasn’t such a hypocrite. She looks down on the rest of us because we’re eating meat, but she turns around and eats fish, and tries to tell me that it’s not the same?!?

Fuck her and her carrot munching self.

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I don’t blame you for being really annoyed with her. Maybe you should tell her to knock it off. If that fails, pick up your food and move to another table.

One of the reasons that some vegetarians eat fish and not beef or pork is an effort to have the land used more reasonably. If the land were not used to grow food for cattle, it could be used to grow food for others in the world who don’t have enough.

Also, some believe that fish are better for you than red meat or pork.

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I totaly agree with your friend. I’m a vegetarian who only eats the ugly aminals. Fortunately, cows, chickens, pigs and turkeys are all butt ugly.

Oh, and fish too. Ugly fish.

And shrimp and lobsters and crawfish. Nothing pretty about them.

I’m a flexable vegetarian.

I’m an uglitarian.

You’ll be hearing more about us soon…

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Does one choose the red wine or a white with a Joe Pesci porterhouse steak?

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Hah! The comment about the fish being ugly reminds me of the recent Jack-in-the-Box commercial: “Any bird that goes around saying ‘gobble gobble’ is just asking to a sandwich!”

On a serious note, there’s a group (class?) of vegetarians who don’t consider fish to be off limits. IIRC, it’s pesco-vegetarian. Also, some folks do become vegetarians for health concerns.

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Red, of course. What are you, a barbarian?

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I’d be interested to know if this friend of yours wears leather shoes or belts or carries any leather accoutrements of any sort. If she does, she’s been a hypocrite from the start!

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Your friend sounds like a hypocrite. The kind the rest of us vegetarians would like to smack upside the head for giving us a bad name.

I can’t imagine being so rude as to make nasty comments about what others at the table are eating. I’m a lifelong vegeratian married to a carnivore and would never make comments about what he eats.

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There is, of course, the possibility that the OP’s friend really is a pesco-vegetarian and is just fed up (darned puns!) with people making smartaleck comments about her food whilst she’s trying to eat it in peace. Maybe she thought of making a smartaleck response back?

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Now, be nice; she’s not a hypocrite;a hypocrite is one who espouses a position which she does not privately hold – a liar, in other words.

This “vegetarian,” on the other hand, is holding logically inconsistent positions, and holding them self-righteously to boot. That makes her an idiot, and deserving of our pity.

:wink:

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From the OP, it sounds like she’s the one who started with the smartalecky remarks.

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I call sig line!

Rigel

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Reminds me of my 14 year old niece, who last year announced to everyone that she was now a vegetarian because eating animals is “just wrong”.

Okay, cool. The whole family shrugged and told her to go for it. Then at a family gathering, I found her sitting at the counter, cleaning out the bowl of cocktail shrimp.

“Hey, kiddo, I thought you were a vegetarian.”
“I am.”
“Then why are you eating shrimp?”
“Shrimp aren’t animals.”
“What on earth do you think they are? Plants? Fungus? Mold spores?”
“They’re not animals.”
“You mean you missed the whole part about them having a central nervous system, swimming about in the ocean, reproducing with sperm and eggs?”
“They’re not animals.”
“Riiiiiiiiight. Leave some for the rest of us, kiddo.”

Turns out I was the third family member to question her about that. And two others stopped by after me.

She’s still referring to herself as a vegetarian. Of course, this past school year, she raised a chicken and a pig for 4H. But then, maybe she’s convinced that they’re made of tofu or something.

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7 up yours, I’d definitely point out to her that people generally are thought of as barbaric if they decide to kill ugly people because they’re ugly. To be honest, her ideals about not killing animals are ridiculous. Is she generally this silly about her logic? If she’s going to hold the logic that “saving animals” is noble, then it should be anything that either has a face or is a few steps down the food chain from those animals that have faces. Amoebas have feelings too, ya know.

*Note: I’m a complete omnivore. Meat is my friend, and I thank the gods that they bestow us with the abilities to procure such tasty substances… but I wish there were more humane ways to mass produce these substances. I have no objection with anyone else’s dietary regimen as long as they don’t decide that there’s something wrong with me eating how I want to.

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Pretty funny to hear people bitching and moaning about where vegetarians draw the line when they don’t draw a line at all.

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Hey, I draw a line. I don’t eat people. Everything else is fair game.

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I don’t think we’re talking about drawing lines here, it’s more a matter of consistency and behaviour. If you’re going to rag on people for performing the immoral act of eating cows while chomping down on fish, you should probably be prepared to explain why fish and cows are morally different.

A better idea would be to keep your opinions to yourself and enjoy your meal and let other people get on with enjoying theirs.

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I’d say the issue is more with the fact that where she draws that line is completely logically inconsistant, rather than the fact that she draws a line somewhere. I can see where the logic is in drawing a line between meat and eggs/milk, but drawing a line between mammals and fish when your whole rationale is that “she couldn’t go through living life eating the poor animals” ? That just doesn’t make any sense.

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It makes perfect sense. Eating only fish is less cruel than eating fish and mammals. It’s only the non-vegetarians who think it’s some kind of game where if you slip up once you have to stop playing.

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Sorry, hazel, that doesn’t work. A vegetarian and a meat eater go out to dinner on Thursday and Friday. The meat eater orders fish one night and beef the other, while the vegetarian orders fish both nights. They have both contributed to the deaths of two animals; the death toll is unchanged by species choice.

Also consider, the death of one cow will feed tens of people, while the death of a fish will not. Eating fish regularly will cause the deaths of more animals than eating large mammals regularly. Therefore, you could argue that eating beef is less cruel than eating fish because fewer animals have to die.