Game of Thrones 2.10 "Valar Morghulis" 6/3/12 No Book Spoilers

Shrug, I and a lot of others have read the books and are getting great enjoyment out of the show. Reading the books is not going to satisfy your curiosity though, the story is not finished yet. The only thing that will happen is that you will have to wait several more years to find out what happens next rather than one year.

I’m finding that the series diverges enough from the books that I’m continually surprised.

Is Stannis gonna have to choke a witch?

So are the whitewalkers marching toward the wall?

Are the Zombie walkers allied with the normal folk north of the wall? Seemed like it was a mixture of the two marching at the end, but it was hard to tell.

The wildlings are all running away from the whitewalkers and the zombies. That’s how Tonie ended up with the Starks and why those Nightwatch guys deserted-- the ones Ned beheaded last season.

OK, so what is the difference between the Wildings, the Zombies and the White Walkers?

Wildlings are regular old people who live on the north side of the wall. Zombies are the dead returned to life. Whitewalkers are some ancient evil that has re awakened with the dragons and magic.

Who burned winterfell? If the Iron Island crew was turning in Theon to take the deal, they aren’t going to fuck themselves by burning down the castle. If the besieging force saw smoke, wouldn’t they storm the place with their 500-1 advantage at that point? Where did the besieging force go? Certainly they’d have a crew stick around to mind winterfell even if most of them chased down the iron islanders.

Who is Tonie?

Those whitewalkers were actually frightening! Were they carrying icicle spears?

I kind of want the whitewalkers to win.

That’s what I get for Doping in bed on my mobile. Tonks. And by Tonks I mean Osha.

It seems a lot of ancient magic is being released, the dragons, the warlocks, the whiteWalkers, the fire God,even Arya’s friend. It’s out just because winter is coming? Want there some sort of large shooting start at the beginning of of the season?

I still have a lot of questions, like …
Who burned Winterfell?
Why is Tywin so badass but such an ass to the only decent child he has?
Will DarsDorkosVor… the King of Karth have a way out of his vault or will he just eat the skinny bitch in an attempt to last a little longer?

But really all I can think about was the disturbingly cool White Walker and dammit, I have to wait a year for more?!

The Daenyeris storyline was totally redeemed for me by this episode. Up to now it seemed like all her awesomeness had sort of faded away… but the Mother of Dragons out-awsomed them all in the end. I particularly liked Xaro ending up locked in his empty vault with Dany’s treacherous handmaiden.

Hmm. I’m not really fond of that episode. Everything went way too fast, I think.

  • Tyrion comes off as a whiny bitch. “Waah, I got a scar, I’m a monster !”.
  • Dagmer spearbutting Theon at the fever point of his speech was hilarious. Him killing the Kindest Old Man ruined it instantly. FUCK YOU GRRM ! I liked Maester Luwin so much god dammit I will piss on your grave, fat man !
  • Since when does Stannis have emotions ?
  • Brienne rocks. That is all.
  • I hadn’t realized Ygritte was actually sweet on Jon. That’s cool, I hope we see more of them, they’d make a cute fighty couple.
  • In the same vein, hadn’t picked up yet that Littlefinger was sweet on Sansa either. Why, that’s not creepy at all.
  • Varys, never change. I love you the mostest of all Westeros. “How do you know about that ?!” “I thought you said you knew who I was.” swoon There isn’t one scene of yours that I haven’t loved yet, you silky smooth cockless manipulator. Do not ever let GRRM kill you off.
  • The whole Daenerys arc moved way too fast for any of it to have any dramatic impact. The whole tripping thing in the HotU should have been its own part of an episode. Also, Pyat Pree ? “Those dragons are a formidable weapon, and your presence makes them even formidabler ! I’m going to keep the four of you in the same room forever. Also stand there speechifying” ? Not the most solid plan. Not fully thought through.
  • Where the hell did all those Dothraki looting Xaro’s palace come from ?! I thought all she had left were a dozen old dudes and women, who’d already gotten ripped to shreds back when the warlocks nicked the dragons ?
  • That last shot of the zombie army was an adequate cliffhander. Those draugrs, I mean white walkers, are just horrifying enough. The ice weapons were a nice touch too, I thought.

I have to wonder, though: if Jaqen was a shape-shifting ninja all along… how come we met him in a jail wagon headed for the Wall ? How does a man ever get captured or stay in jail for any length of time, who can change faces at will ? Bit of a plot hole there.

Maester Luwin was the most unambiguously likable character in the whole show. He never showed anything but good. He wasn’t a big player, but I think the emotional impact of having him killed was as great as any other character, since he’s the wise, kindly old grandfather we all wish we had.

I’m not convinced Sam didn’t get zombied by the White Walkers.

But at the very start of the series, didn’t the WWs let one of the Night’s Watch guys escape, the one that Ned Stark executed in episode 1? As I recall it, the WWs had him and they let him go, presumably to spread fear. So it’s possible they won’t kill/zomb Sam. But I wouldn’t bet on it.

In an earlier episode, a character explicitly details the meaning of 1 bell, 2 bells and 3 bells. Anybody remember what exactly they were?

I was pleasantly surprised by Dany’s storyline. I was convinced that the house of the undying was going to be like a temporal vortex, where you spend a hundred years inside and come out to only a week having passed. Or whatever. I was pretty sure that was going to be the cheap cop-out way to quick-grow the dragons, so the fact that they didn’t do that pleased me.

On the other hand, yet again more and more people keep referencing how anyone can die at any time and again it’s all cheesy, predictable, everybody made it just in the nick of time! Phew! This wouldn’t bother me at all – wouldn’t have even occured to me, in fact – except for all the nerd-gloating about how ruthless the author was in the source material. Please, I’m begging you guys, just don’t mention or reference that ever again because all it does is make me roll my eyes at the actual show that repeatedly hasn’t killed any main characters accept Ned.

The old guy who had a grand total of like a half hour of screen time over 2 seasons doesn’t count as a main character. He was a side character, and in fact exactly the kind of character you’d expect to die.

I mean, geez, we just had a major battle involving many main characters and everybody survived just fine.

Was he, though? Tywin always was Joffrey’s hand; Tyrion was sent there to be the Hand in Tywin’s absence.

Maybe he wanted to be there. Maybe getting taken prisoner was all part of his plan. Because who would suspect a caged prisoner of being, for example, a shape-shifting ninja?

Obviously it would have gone wrong if they’d burned, but up to that point I see no reason to think that Jaqen wasn’t where he intended to be. Thus far we have no idea what he was actually up to.