I don’t remember either, but probably. I don’t trust that guy.
I was wondering if it was situation reasons for not wanting the drugs, or if he’s just the type of guy that doesn’t put that shit in his body.
Mistrust of the defrocked Maester does seem like a sensible reason to turn down incapacitating drugs.
Looks like decapitation scenes are a good measure of character.
Ned is the ideal; he does his duty skillfully and because it is necessary, not out malice or vegeance. The only knock against him is that he fails to take the deserter’s story seriously.
Robb does it himself, unlike Joffrey, and does it properly, unlike Theon. He doesn’t act impulsively, unlike both of those guys. While he’s got reasonably good grounds for it (unlike Theon), he does ignore good advice that would probably save a lot of trouble in the long run, like Joffrey.
By the way - just so’s I get it: We see a couple of kids killed; it is quickly revealed that they were killed against the orders of Robb and compromise him a bit (??) and so he must apply brutal justice. But in doing so, he alienates a big chunk of his armed forces who are part of that Clan’s structure.
I am sure there are a couple of glaringly obvious plot twists or implications that I have missed.
It was insubordination and cold-blooded murder of unarmed children, so he had to set a very strong example. Though I’d have done with a couple of hangings and then publicly sentencing Karstark and whoever didn’t hang to death, then commute the sentence to being hostages until such time as they can be sent to The Wall (currently not so much an option).
They were two captured Lannisters. Rickard Karstark lost both his sons during the war to Lannisters, I think both of them to Jamie actually. At least one specifically to Jamie during his escape attempt, and another during the battle were he was captured. He saw Cat freeing Jamie as denying him his just vengeance and crippling to the war effort. I imagine he thought they were fucked already and had to take whatever revenge he could, by killing prisoners.
Thank you for clarifying that for me. I heard “milk of the puppy” and was totally confused. I’m such an idiot.
Would Robb have executed Rickard if the guy hadn’t mocked him with the “He’s going to give me a stern talking to and then let me go” bit?
That is actually a good question. I don’t know, he might have been more open to reason i assume. He could’ve held him hostage like EVERYONE told him, and then sent him to the Wall afterwards, which frankly would have been fair enough in my book.
Apparently the Lord of Light is a real thing, being as how that guy keeps using him/her to bring back his colleague from the dead. Does this mean Stannis is indeed destined to sit on the Iron Throne?
Yeah, that’s sort of like the “you don’t have the guts to shoot me!” things that villains do in movies. Well, shit, I may not have before, but now that you dared me…
Possibly, though something tells me he’s more of a pawn in a bigger game being played by this Lord of Light.
The lord of light saved Melisandre from poison and made a shadow baby. I’d totally worship the lord of light if i lived in westeros, he gets shit done like Joe Pesci.
The past few posts have been helpful; thank you. I hadn’t fully appreciated how the murders were of kids already imprisoned and therefore a simple, blatent revenge grab that ran counter to Robb. The further mock was a bridge even further too far.
I find it hard to keep each plots’ ambiguities in place - it’s okay to not yet know X, but you better make sense of P, Q and R - all of which make X all the more important to learn.
So sometimes twists slip past me, and when they are referenced, I can’t recall if we are supposed to know it, or supposed what they are referencing or not know it…
If Stannis was married to a Targaryen, wouldn’t you think Viserys and Dany would have known they not only had surviving kin, but in the royal family back in Westeros?
Cercei has the worst luck in husbands, a philanderer and a homosexual.
What is Dany going to do now? She has gone from basically a sex toy to the most powerful woman in her region. Is she going to be, i).spoiling the Lannister’s wedding season? ii) making some housecalls to some of the other Khalasars? iii) something awesome?
I think drunk Cersei and Loras would totally get along.
First episode of the season, Melissandre talked about precious Baratheon fluids from someone else. And then she talked to his wife. I wonder if she’s going to do something horrible to his daughter. That would fit since this show is a dick.
Or Gendry, I guess. There’s a lord of light connection there.
But taking a sweet little abused girl and chopping her up to spit out another smoke baby or something would be more dickish. So my money is going there.
Tywin Lannister is horribly cruel to his children, but I have to admit I kind of see where he was coming from with his marriage plots/dressing down of Tyrion and Cersei. All he wants is complete domination of an entire continent, but first he has to sort out his whiny kids and their ridiculous romantic predilections. YOU, stop fucking your brother! YOU, stop falling in love with prostitutes!
Yes arranged marriages are horrible and creepy and vaguely rape-like, but they’re also the cultural norm in Westeros. Cat didn’t seem to think much of agreeing to marry off Arya to one of the Freys, even though we all know Arya would probably hate that.
I think it’s also worth noting that Karstark and his men didn’t just kill the two Lannister boys, they also killed a guard to get to the prisoner.
That literally made me giggle out loud. So, so true.
She certainly could target Gendry, though. She’s traipsing around following fire visions or something, and of course she could visit with fellow crazyass fire priest Thoros, and get a vision that Gendry has the blood of a king.
I am very suspicious that despite the Lord of Light’s magic actually working, Melisandre is interpreting her visions through an all-too-human lens, and doesn’t have the right read on the situation at all. Which is disturbing when you consider that she’s literally OK with doing *anything *as long as it’s part of her god’s supposed plan.