Lol. He’s missing a hand, that would be perfect.
I suspected from your hint that Tywin would die. How could you not think people would suspect that?
And even those who didn’t suspect it from the start had to know the second Tyrion opened the door and saw Tywin, at that point the best scene of the episode got completely spoiled by his idiotic comment.
I enjoyed the finale. The House vs. Brienne was so frustratingly brilliant. Great drama. I wanted them to work it out but Arrya doesn’t know what we know. All she knows is a warrior with a Lanister Sword is looking for her. I wouldn’t buy that either.
The Stannis rescue at the wall was awesome. The Wildlings were a bunch of barbarians. the only reason they were a threat were numbers. Once they didn’t have the numbers they were doomed. It looks like Lord Bolton is not quite the Master of the North he thinks he is (especially since his patron is dead on a toilet now…).
I do think maybe the rescue scene would have been better served happening at the end of last week than during this episode. This episode felt rushed and last week felt unfinished. Moving this would have fixed both I think.
I am not sure what to think about Tyrion killing Shae. I would have liked a conversation between them first. Was she a spy the whole time? Did she ever really love him? She seemed so damn sincere when they were together.
Tyrion and Tywin though was great. Tywin never really knew his son at all (neither of them actually) and that cost him his life. I was sure Joffrey was going to kill Tywin with that crossbow. Right weapon, wrong finger on the trigger.
So now that Tyrion and Varys are working together and on their way to Braavos, will they run the Iron Bank in two months or three?
Looks like the Tyrells will be running things soon. Good for them. They seem the most decent of all the big families we have met.
It definitely reinforces my decision to never come into these threads until I’ve seen the show in question. All it takes is one idiotic comment. Or one malicious comment from someone with an ax to grind (not saying that fits Cal’s motives, but there’s plenty of friction on this board on this issue).
One thing I’ve wondered for a while. During the clockwork opening credits, one of the things we see is a tree with weirdly conical branches. Without spoilering anything, is that explicable?
(I also wondered whether this show would be as popular if it wasn’t based on a popular book series but instead was an original concept.)
How else do you make a clockwork tree?
Good point. I assume it refers to the tree that Bran finally reached, as that’s the only one I remember from the show. Is that right?
Nope; the tree in the opening credits is part of the Winterfell clockwork. It references the tree that Ned Stark visited in the opening episode(s) of Season 1. Ned and Catelyn had a talk underneath the tree before he went south to King’s Landing. I think Bran also went there sometimes, and if memory serves it’s where he got his vision to convince him to travel north.
Obviously, though, the tree in this last episode is another version of that one outside Winterfell.
No. The weirwood trees are the ones that people who worship the old gods pray to (typically people in the north, like the Starks). We’ve seen them at nearly every major city, including the Wall. Jon Snow took his oath at one (it was outside the Wall), we’ve seen on at King’s Landing, and at Winterfell.
If someone has to feed them daily (presumably), what goes in must also come out and so there would surely be big piles of dung that needed to be removed.
I suppose they could just sweep them out into the ocean. The room where those dragons were imprisoned looks like it has an exit to a body of water that seems to be the ocean. But whether it is or not, it just seems that someone would have to feed them daily and remove their waste daily. Since those dragons will soon be much larger than they are, that is going to be a big huge job.
I have no idea. But do you really think Dani would want to have them fed and cleaned indefinitely? And if not indefinitely, where would they be released? Since they can fly, I would guess they could return home and create huge amounts of trouble. Then there is the 3rd dragon. It seems to be bigger than both its siblings put together and …
Oh well, the entire situation just seems like one huge mess waiting to happen and lots of corpses will abound. I’d seriously be interested to hear what anyone else thinks will happen with these 3 dragons. I can’t see any good solution aside from killing them all. If they are not all slaughtered, the result will be a whole lot of people getting slaughtered.
What do you think she can do about them? Surely we have seen that she cannot control them and the older they get, the more difficult it will be for her to control them - regardless of whether she is their “mother” or not.
I fear that I will offend a bunch of people. But the entire story line regarding Dani and her dragons just seems … <omitted because my opinion will likely seriously offend many people and I don’t want to start any big fights.
But I thank Reverse and Maserschmidt for your intelligent comments about the dragons.
Ascenray also makes a good point, “The dragons are critical to her claim on the the Iron Throne. There’s no way she’s just going to dispense with them.”
I would be interested to hear what anyone thinks she will do with them.
This episode was surprisingly emotionally satisfying. Like normal TV!
Stannis showing up like a badass to save the day, being all kingly.
Jamie and Tyrion tearfully embracing.
Even Brienne and Arya meeting was pretty cool. I loved how Arya was amazed to see a female knight. And them bonding over their fathers.
I enjoyed Tyrion’s little killing spree. He was due.
Manse does not have an army. At best he has a loose confederation of warriors and a whole bunch of non-combantent followers who share a common goal of getting the hell out of the North ahead of the White Walkers, most of whom had just finished a rather painful defeat in thier first attempt at the wall. Stannis showed up with a trained and, most importantly diciplined, army. remember the Crows on the wall were comment ing repeatedly about the wilding attacks failing because they were undiciplined and uncordinated in thier fighting.
Based on chapter 15 of *The Winds of Winter, *it will be Peter Dinklege in a dual role. 
…unless they decide to give Warrwick Davis some love.
Stannis’s real objective is to save the world from the White Walkers, who are the enemies of the fire religion that the Red Witch claims he is the messiah of.
I don’t know the answer to this question, but a good prostitute would be skilled at faking sincerity.
Thanks for the explanation of the tree. I wondered for a while.
And the bit with Dany and the man’s daughter reminded me of the episode with the goatherd when I thought his child had been killed by a dragon. Dany was clearly bothered by the death of the child, but her dragons are basically weapons of mass destruction. And such things are indiscriminate; innocents as well as combatants are going to get killed. And actually anyone who is fighting for the Iron Throne is going to be responsible for the deaths of many innocents. So either she needs to get out of the competition or inure herself to the wanton destruction.
But they are not supposed to be, remember the dragons from the original Targaryen conquest were ridden into battle. That implies domestication and large degrees of control.
That was from a time when dragons were better understood and people knew how to domesticate them. I don’t think that’s the case now.
Reminds me of last night Chinese dinner.
Damn, I didn’t get it on before the fix.
I’ve been wrong about the show many times before but I thought the Shae/Tyrion relationship was real but she didn’t take being sent away very well. If she didn’t like him she wouldn’t have cared about whether he consumated the marriage with Sansa.
That her sister is still in the aerie? Did she and the Hound ever determine who was in charge? Brienne and Paddric know, though, right? Will they continue on to find Sansa and Littleflinger?
I still like Dani. She’s dutifully trying like heck to do the right thing.
I read somewhere that there are major plot points being ignored in the TV version. I suppose the writer will try to smooth some of that over in the next season or two or three…