Game of Thrones 2.09 "Blackwater" 5/27/12 No Book Spoilers

Episode 1: The North Remembers
Episode 2: The Night Lands
Episode 3: What is Dead May Never Die
Episode 4: “Garden of Bones”
Episode 5: The Ghosts of Harrenhall
Episode 6: The Old Gods and the New
Episode 7: A Man Without Honor
Episode 8: The Prince of Winterfell

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Stannis’ fleet nears Kings Landing. Yara leaves Winterfell with her men, leaving Theon alone. Dany yells demands. Tywin Lannister marches against Robb Stark. Arya and friends escape Harrenhall. Ros continues a mysterious streak of not being naked.

We’ve had a lot of slow moving episodes this season, but I suspect this is where shit starts to hit the fan.

That was the best one yet. Did Tywin deliberately mislead Arya about going to attack Robb, when he really was headed to King’s Landing?

I’m pretty sure he didn’t say anything about attacking Robb.

That was pretty intense. I thought some of the violence was comically over the top, but other than that, whoa.

I seriously doubt he would have left her there if he knew who she was. I loved this episode, i loved the battle but i can’t help but wishing i could be watching the show they would have made if they had the budget they wanted.

I don’t he knew who she was, only that she was a spy for someone.

I am gay for Tyrion Lannister. (ok, I’m bisexual anyway.) But that speech! I got some applause going in the bar I go to watch for that one.

So who was the knight that tried to kill Tyrion?

“If they call me half man what does that make you lot?” freaking awesome. Edit: one of the kingsguard members Joffrey left with him.

He was named dropped in the previous episode. Ser Mandon Moore.

So was he acting on Joffrey’s order, or someone else’s?

That battle actually made me like Stannis, and his main quality is being unlikeable. Edit: you are just asking for spoilers now.

“If you die with a clean sword, I’ll rape your fucking corpse.”

The Hound is awesome.
The battle scenes did seem too small in scope, but the wildfire explosion was very cool.

So… Tyrion is dead? I couldn’t really tell how badly he was injured. At first it looked like he just got cut across the face, but maybe it went deeper than I thought. Or maybe he just passed out and isn’t dead. Aaaahh, I will not read the spoiler thread, I will not read the spoiler thread…

The scenes with Cersei and Sansa and Shea were good. Cersei’s crazy-but-controlled wickedness made for some tense scenes.

I was a bit shocked that Stannis had anything left to attack with, much less win the battle with, after that. Anyone care to explain?

Basically he had lots of boats, and lots of men. They didn’t all get blowed up.

I think Lancel’s claim that they burned hundreds of ships was a bit of an exaggeration, they blew up and burned plenty of them but not hundreds and nowhere near all Stannis had.

I was surprised Tyrion put all the wildfire in one boat. He seemed a bit surprised by the size of the explosion; he looked at the maester, who gave him a little grin.

OK. Not terribly well shown in the show, then, or at least I didn’t pick up on it. That said, I watch at a bar (as mentioned), and the TVs are… not really optimal for a dark show like GoT.

The best moment of an episode full of great moments was wordless. As the bay burned with wildfire and men died screaming, the Hound looked terrified, Tyrion looked like a combination of proud and sick, and Jofffrey and the pyromancer were grinning. Such great acting without a single mouth opening.

The wildfire explosion was fantastic. I was a bit confused, though. Did the Lancel bring Joffrey back? If not, where was Joffrey? If he did, why did Cercei hit him in his wound?

Best line:
But you were the king’s sworn love
As you will be Joffrey’s. Enjoy!

Lancel brought Joffrey back to his quarters like the Queen ordered, he wanted to bring him back out to the battle when Cersei hit him.