Game of Thrones 5.06 "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" 5/17/15

I got the impression that stopping greyscale was a one-in-a-million kind of thing. Everyone wrote off Stannis’ daughter as doomed once she started showing symptoms. Stannis said “nuts to that” and brought in every healer he could, and they managed to save her. Barring a miracle, Jorah is probably screwed. I suppose it’s possible that Danaerys might decide to try to save him but my money’s on Jorah voluntarily staying far away from her anyway, to avoid infecting anyone in Mereen.

All the slavers grabbing and manhandling him are now at risk of infection, I’d think. And who knows where it might go from there?

I’ll bet being married to the Imp doesn’t seem so bad now.

Sounds like the Firesign Theater has been helping out with the scriptwriting …

Depends. A good, likable and SMART man could last a very long time. Intelligence and an understanding of treachery appears to be the biggest determinant of lifespan among the elite.

Earlier he had a soliloquy about how he would prefer to die … a boring death. So … I wouldn’t hold out too much hope for Bronn.

So we know the Queen of Thorns is pissed as hell at Cersei, and that there has been a prophecy that all her children would be crowned and then die. So … methinks the Queen of Thorns is gonna arrange an unhappy event for Tommen Real Soon Now.

She doesn’t need to go that far. She already reminded Cersei that the capital is dependent on the Tyrells for gold and wheat. So she just has to withhold her subsidies and the crown will be in trouble, in particular with the Iron Bank. In fact, it might be the Iron Bank that arranges an end to Tommen’s reign.

It’s unlikely that that sort of maneuvering will be of any help to Margery and whatsisface. Need answer fast! And Tommen’s death would put Cersei out of the picture, power-wise. Not sure who would succeed him. That’s probably an important thing to know, because old Mrs. Peel … er, the Queen of Thorns … would definitely take that into account.

In theory we’re still on the Baratheon line right? Ned felt that Joffrey and Tommen weren’t legitimate heirs since they were Lannisters, but they took the throne anyway as “legitimate” heirs. Should Tommen befall some misfortune then Stannis should be the undisputed sole heir of the crown right? Stannis would have little use for Cersie I think and Olenna would probably consider him much more of a practical equal.

Cersie is such a spoiled brat. Always convinced that “power is power”, she just assumes she’s won and that the Lannisters will remain the strongest family in the kingdom. With Tommen’s impotence it’s all about to come crashing down around her… I can’t wait to see it!

Just had another thought - if Margery is pregnant and has a baby, then he’d be the king and would need a regent. Would that make Margery defacto ruler? She’d not be nearly as nice and respectful as Tommen when dealing with the Sparrows.

Yeah, am I supposed to commiserate with their plan for vengeance considering the vengeance is entirely misplaced? He lost that fight fair and square. Didn’t they imply that Oberyn’s blade was poisoned? If anything, wasn’t he the one cheating in the fight?

I think we’re definitely supposed to view their view for vengeance as irrational and unjustified.

(I don’t know if poisoned blades are forbidden by the official dueling laws or not.)

I’m sure HBO are shitting themselves :stuck_out_tongue:

The Iron Bank is already funding Stannis, not much more they can do to end Tommen’s reign.

They could also fund Blondielocks with her army of Dragons & Eunochs. Or raise another mercenary army to invade. Or bribe Dorne to invade. Or send their local Masters of Sinanju to kill the King and Cersei et al.

Plus had Oberyn just finished off The Mountain instead of insisting on talking to him, he would have won the fight.

Wasn’t at all surprised by that little revelation. She did hate the Hound, but her feelings towards him had become far more nuanced than that by the time they parted company. A different story might well have her feeling conflicted remorse for leaving him to die; as it is, at least for now, she believes her own narrative about their relationship. (Which raises interesting questions about what it means to “lie” that I don’t think the show is going to have time to deal with, i.e., is it a lie if, at the time of the statement, you sincerely believe in its truth, even though you were present and witness to its falsity? Blah blah. Boring philosphy stuff, man.)

I mentioned to my friend while watching that one of the German generals in WWI–Ludendorff, IIRC–tended not so much towards grand strategy as to the more prosaic plan of “poke some holes in their lines and see how we can capitalize on that”. Littlefinger seems to be of the same mold.

Character is like, 14, and has just been elected [del]President[/del]. On top of that, he was at least one step down the line of succession. Until Robert Baratheon had his hunting accident, he wouldn’t have been expected to ascend to the throne until he was an older man–and that assumes Joffrey produces no heirs. He is literally the most naive, manipulable, inexperienced, inappropriate person for the job person in all of Westeros.

On top of that, he botched his “Kingship” roll first when he had himself taken to the Sparrows instead of summoning the High Sparrow to court, and then again when he failed to have his Kingsguard face off with the Sparrows. I doubt it would’ve come to blows, and if it had, the spin of a fringe religious order attacking the person of the King is pretty damned easy.

See what I mean? I’m just some schlub in 20th Century America, and I’d be a better king than Tommen.

It’s too obvious and too satisfying, but I’m still hoping that the additional emotional strain causes Theon to “break” again and murder the living daylights out of Ramsey in the most satisfying way possible.

Well, if nothing else, you can always go watch him on Ripper Street. Plus, I understand he was a bit of a musician in his younger years–I think he gave us all a little taste of that this episode…

Well, I can’t look at the article because I don’t want book spoilers. So I’m just going on your summary here. Surely this will turn out well, right?

…actually, right. I think possibly this particular thread of the conversation belongs in the other thread, or even (best of all!) in a separate thread of its own that can explain the I-am-totally-not-going-to-prejudge-the-batshit-crazy-arguments-oh-shit-i-just-did-didn’t-i article you’re posting here without giving too much away that’d actually impact the series.

Just sayin’.

This episode was all about lies.

Margery and Loras lie while under oath. Tyrion and Jorah lie to the slavers about how big of a badass Jorah is. Arya has lies beaten out of her until she learns to lie properly. We are reminded in the “previously, on Game of Thrones …” recap of how Ramsey swore he would never hurt Sansa. Littlefinger’s lips were moving, so he was probably lying at some point as well. This makes me wonder: Was Sansa lying about anything?

The scene between Cersei and Olenna was wonderful. The traded barbs about tarts would have easily been the greatest line of the show, had we not been given the instant classic, “The dwarf lives until we find a cock merchant.”

Moved a post to the other GoT thread (the one by Push You Down).