The Hound saying he saw a “mountain” in the fire was a direct reference to Cleganebowl. They’re just fucking with us at this point. It’s fucking confirmed!
They weren’t? I can’t remember that…
They’ve certainly been able to send out ravens since Jon’s been in charge. Didn’t he get one from Ramsey Bolton? Wasn’t he sending out ones requesting help for the the wall?
I’m not sure who can do it, I don’t think it was even Aemon who did it before, I suspect it will was Sam, and I would have thought him being gone would stop it, but I do remember messages getting received since then and not via 500 miles on horseback from Winterfell…
I would say they couldn’t get Russell Brand to play Euron, so they nicked his fashion sense instead…
[Moderating]
The show may be past the books now, but there are still some things that are in the books but not the show, or we wouldn’t have to be having this exchange right now. Thus, the rule concerning spoilers still stands: Don’t bring up book-only material in threads on the TV show (or vice-versa, now that the show has passed the books), or if you must, put it in spoiler tags. This is clearly a thread about the show, given that it has an episode number and [Show Discussion] in the title, so you need to continue spoiler-boxing book-only material.
The characters are becoming more and more caricatures of themselves. There’s an obvious - but difficult to describe - difference in tone and writing between this season and previous seasons (especially the first four). It’s something that happens to most shows.
The episode was meh. 5/10.
I sometimes think of this season as Lost’s fifth season:
You know, the one after the time travelling, but before the afterlife, when people were on the island, off the island, and military was attacking, and others were kind of friends and not friends and Locke was now the smokemonster, and the other guy was hundreds of years old and was protecting a light
Ie: a clusterfuck.
But now I’m thinking its more the final seasons of Sons of Anarchy.
Five fat dudes in a bike gang best and wipe out all the gangs in Northern California, when nobody seems to just kill them…
Ie: a parody of the original few decent seasons.
Nicked some from a reddit thread, summarising some plot holes and things to come…
A meetup at winterfall…
The Hound arrives at Winterfell
Hound: Hey, you’re the one who sort of killed me!
Brienne: That’s because you had Arya!
Sansa: Wait, Arya was with THE HOUND and you didn’t find it relevant to tell me?
Jon: Wait, Arya’s ALIVE and nobody found it relevant to tell me?
Tyrion and Dany arrive
Tyrion: Oh, hi my wife.
Sansa: …
Bran arrives:
Bran: Is everyone sitting down? Good, because you’re not gonna believe the shit I got to say
Theon: Don’t mind me…
Varys: Hello Jon, I heard you were dead.
Hound: Hey littlefinger, you’re still alive after you betrayed Ned Stark?
Bran: Anyone seen Rickon or Osha?
Tormund: Stab Stab Stab… I’m Arya!
Got all that from one episode, did you? Amazing!
Did you mean “provinces,” maybe?
Although we’re only one episode in and there’s only a dozen or so episodes left I’m still hoping for a few suprises or shockers. Everything seems to be going predicatbly well for the main characters.
Losing fan favorites and sending the plot off in a different direction is what this show did so well in past seasons. Something like Little Finger murdering Jon Snow, or Arya getting double crossed by the no faced man just before killing Cersi, or Jamie unexpectedly killing Tyrion instead of Cersi.
BTW, here’s Kit Harington (Jon Snow)'s long-lost GOT audition tape: https://www.facebook.com/1383455088408135/videos/1400849586668685/
Did anyone notice an interesting illustration on the pages of the book that Sam was reading? I had just read a story about how on a recent cover of EW magazine, Arya is seen with [SPOILER] the dagger used in the assassination attempt on Bran way back in season 1. The cover can be seen on this page: http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/06/game-of-thrones-season-7-arya-stark-valyrian-steel-dagger-catspaw-littlefinger[/SPOILER] Then a picture of it shows up in an ancient book. Methinks this could be important.
Here is a link to a page that has a screen cap of the book Catspaw Dagger LittleFinger Bran Detail Game Of Thrones
Just as a side note: that blade is also one of the symbols used on the “Game of Thrones” slot machine. So they haven’t really been hiding the thing.
Got it from last season and this episode. Cut short battle of the bastards. The amazing instant thousand mile Danys fleet shift. Arya’s wonderful pie making skills around the Frey kitchen.
If you want to sum it up actually, it’s usually “We’re really bad time managers so lets underestimate the time we have, put a lot of crap in, and when it comes to the vital bit, cut it short.”
The Simpsons summed it up with “So the children learned how to function as a society, and eventually they were rescued by, oh, let’s say… Moe”
But thanks for thinking that I’ve only ever watched one episode of the show. Or there only ever was one episode to be watched to form any opinions.
No, it’s obvious you have watched the show. What I was snarking on was your condemnation of an entire season that you haven’t seen. You have no valid basis for that condemnation based on the first episode.
Now, you may be entirely correct and this season will be a complete, mismanaged mess. But I’ll wait until the season is over before I render judgment. If that means publically acknowledging your snap judgment, just drop me a PM and I will do so.
Ok, so let’s ignore Arya’s two week stint as Walder Frey, looking after daily admin of the towers, waiting for the Freys to come and meet…
Or “not seen since season 2” appearance of Bran quietly happening.
Or their crappy division between Jon Snow and Sansa easily solved with the Dreadfort being mentioned.
Or Danys silent walk up an empty Dragonstone.
Or the thousand ships from ten trees on the iron isles.
I’m personally not bothered by the clumsy cameo with the chirpiest rapist and murderers in the riverlands.
Let’s just focus on Dragonstone itself. At the entrance to Blackwater Bay, Euron took his massive fleet past and back past Dragonstone on his way to Kings Landing. Quite a strategic point, he who controls Dragonstone, controls Blackwater Bay. Lannisters can’t. But hey, that new fleet of allies, just march past it…
Bit shit isn’t it?
My point still stands, it’s more of the same shortcuts. I didn’t mind the Ayra bit, stupid as it was, bit of “Hell Yeah”. It doesn’t always have to work. But it occasionally has to make some sort of basic sense…
They still had time to have someone show that they can do a five minute tedious food like shit montage, as if it was the humour of the episode. Reminding me of the dread of seeing Sam appear on the screen again though. So I suppose it served its purpose.
As an avid reader of the blanks and a longtime watcher of the show, I’ll admit, the show has lost a little of its luster, and was never quite as awesome as the blanks in the first place.
But it’s still – even after GRRM’s writing no longer props it up – it’s still one of the best shows on television today, and probably ever. Any one of the 61 episodes that have aired so far is better than any of the Lord of the Rings movies, for example. It’s literally a sixty-hour long big-budget blockbuster motion picture, with world class acting, writing, costumes and effects, and filmed in some of the most beautiful places on earth.
So let’s have some perspective. The writing quality might have slipped, from some people’s viewpoints (I think they’re still doing great within the constraints they have to work with though), but it’s certainly not “shit”. At all. Nowhere close.
Hey, if talk about books are banned, so should periodicals. I don’t read EW.
Like a few others I felt that Dany and her party were way too casual about walking into a castle which could easily have hidden enemies. That is what I was expecting after Jaime’s correct prediction about her landing spot. In fact I think it’s still possible that the Lannisters may have sent an assassin or two lurking in Dragonstone waiting to pounce.