Game of Thrones 7.01 "Dragonstone" 7/16/17 [Show Discussion]

That’s pretty standard in early episodes.

Yeah, I hope that’s the last we see of suprise celebrity cameos. They need to knock that shit off. Ruins an otherwise excellent show.

As Arya stepped away from the Frey girl it looked as if she might have been standing on a stool. I thought she’d go back to Winterfell. It will be fun watching her in Kings landing.

I think they could have gotten to the point quicker on the dead march to show those undead giants. Sam’s drudgery montage could have been shorter as could the Dragonstone walkthrough. The Ed Sheera scene might have been a waste of time as well. They’re gonna have to pack more action and critical plot detail in the next six episode which means the episodes should only get better.

Yeah that was blah. Tyrion was very fond of Tommen and Myrcella. I hope that gets acknowledged somehow.

When we pick up with Arya again will she be leaving a camp of dead Lannister soldiers?

pretty sure there is another celeb cameo coming up. Can’t remember who it is.

Don’t understand why that would get people mad.

Interrupts suspension of disbelief. When I’m watching a prestige drama, I never want to go from “oh, I wonder what’s going to happen next” to “that’s not a character, that’s an actor.”

If we do, Arya has then become one of the villains on the show. The entire point of that scene was for Arya to get a lesson on shared humanity and empathy. If she turns away from that…

Good opener. My hope is after the character debacle that was The Battle of the Bastards, they let Jon be shown as an intelligent and worthy leader.

So did everyone else avert their eyes during the montage of scenes showing Sam emptying chamberpots and filling soup pots (which for some reason looked exactly the same)?

that montage was funny but they had it go on too long.

Good opener. I agree some parts were too slow. While it"s true that not much “happened,” I think it served well to set up action to come.

I liked the Jon/Sansa scenes, and I always prefer Arya when she’s murderous. Love the Hound always!

Ok, so specific questions from this episode.
[ul]
[li]Euron really didn’t have a lot of emotional capital in his marry Dany plan, did he? His gift to Cersei will probably be Tyrion’s body?[/li][li]Will Jorah be healed in the Citadel? What’s going to happen to him in general?[/li][li]Will Arya make it to King’s Landling? I kind think she won’t and will get turned around to head north at some point.[/li][li]Where will Melisandre turn up?[/li][li]Cersei can’t will even with the Ironborn. How will she go down in a blaze of glory?[/li][/ul]

Was that Jorah Mormont in the cell at the Citadel?

I think thats a safe assumption.

Not an assumption. They showed his face in the darkness.

Cold open was amazing.

The resolution to all of this seems obvious, though I know it won’t go smoothly.

It seems like the North should form an alliance with Daenerys Targaryen. She has dragons and, if I understand it correctly, a lot of Dragonglass. They defeat the White Walkers and then take on Cercei.

No idea how it all works out, but isn’t this the basic path forward?

Dear Hound,

Please kill Ed Sheeran. That should satisfy everyone.

Cordially,

Flander

Well no problem for me because I didn’t recognize any cameos in that scene.

But come on, I recognize actors all the time. Tywin Lannister was Guy Perron, the hero of The Jewel in the Crown, Walter Frey was Filch from Harry Potter, Prince Doran was Dr. Bashir from Star Trek, Ellaria Sand is Niobe from Rome, the archmaester is Bridget Jones’s dad, the Hound is gentle Kenny from The Book Group. This wasn’t any different from what happens all the time.

Poor Jaime has to be feeling some strong deja vu. The queen on the Iron Throne has burned a significant part of King’s Landing, and seems to be going crazy after losing her children. Isn’t this how he got his nickname?

Right. I had no idea who Ed Sheeran was, so it didn’t register.

And I agree it’s no different than having seen an actor in some other show. I keep thinking of Littlefinger as the mayor of Baltimore from The Wire, Olenna Tyrell as Emma Peel and a Bond girl, Ned Stark as Boromir, and the High Sparrow as I don’t know how many different roles.