Oh, yeah. I was eating dinner at the time. 
Agreed, although him and Gilly have sure have some surprisingly nice quarters. The autopsy scene was funny and interesting too. The maesters have apparently figured out the it’s a good idea to wear gloves when dissecting a dead body.
Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
The only way those soldiers wind up dead is if they attack Arya and she has to kill them in self defense. If she murders them just for being part of the Lannister army, she becomes irredeemable. That would destroy the emotional payoff when she kills actual bad guys. And besides, the show had just shown Arya to be very discriminating in who she killed. She spared the servant girls, for example.
I liked the episode well enough, but I agree that the Ed Sheeren stunt casting took me out of the show. Also, I was confused about the landing at Dragonstone. I knew that Stannis had taken his military forces with him, but I never thought the place would be completely abandoned. Surely someone would have been occupying such a valuable asset? I kept expecting an attack. And I was wondering why they went ashore with such a small party. Then I thought maybe they had already negotiated a surrender. But hey, the front doors weren’t even locked.
That whole sequence was a waste of valuable screen time. 30 seconds of chamberpot/soup bowl would have been plenty. Also coulda/shoulda saved time at Dragon stone.
Sansa seemed…off, somehow. She knows mouthing off in trial council would make Jon look bad, yet she did it anyway.
I think Littlefinger needs to die. Sooner rather than later. Tired of him.
Never heard of Ed Sheeran until I read about him in this thread. And yeah, I don’t know how anyone can watch a major motion picture if it bothers them to see actors whom they’ve seen before. I recognize all sorts of actors in GoT, as per your list. BFD.
Waay too much shit in the episode. And that was before we even got to Sam.
We had Faceless!Walder killing most of the Frey’s*, the title sequence and then sweet fuck all.
*As an aside, where the hell did Arya get enough of that posion and make sure that scores of drinks each contained enough concentration to kill their drinkers; and not just give them the shits?
You all remember Dany’s “break the wheel” speech, right? I think I’ve figured out how that’s going to happen. All of the Great Houses are going to get Darwinized. So far the Freys and Barantheons are for sure gone. Teetering on extinction are the Lannisters and Tyrells. Didn’t the Sand Snakes kill off the last of the Dornish? Unless Jon is revealed to the world to be a Targaryan, they’re done for too, as Dany has been made barren by the monster baby she had.
What other Great Houses remain? And Dany’s war will sure help to put the finishing touches on all the other Houses. Of course this means the Starks have to die too.
And don’t you think it was out of character for Jon to be so totally dismissive of Sansa and her advice? “I should listen to you?”, he said as if that was some crazy shit she was proposing. When did Jon become such a chauvinist?
Its less of being a Chavainist and more of you know; please don’t cotradict the King* while he is speaking in front of the Lords*.
No, he had already made that point. She was telling him that he had to be smarter than their father and brother and he was all like, why should I listen to you?
They were both out of character, I think. Sansa would’ve known the way she argued with him was inappropriate given that she seemed happy to support him as king, and he was weirdly dismissive of her. It feels very artificial, a way to create a rift plotline that Baelish can exploit.
Unless Jon was pissed at her for not telling her about the knights of the vale, which he should be, given that she could’ve easily told him, and he could’ve delayed the battle, saving the lives of thousands of his men. He also almost, and probably should have, died in that battle before her army showed up. But given that this isn’t ever shown, I don’t think it’s established he is pissed at her about it and it’s probably not meant to be taken that way.
Fortunately for me, I don’t know much about current pop stars, so I was spared that. I did think he had a nice voice for a soldier.
But I had the exact experience you’re talking about the first time I watched “Gandhi.” I was totally immersed in the movie, and then was completely jarred out of it when Candice Bergen suddenly appeared on the screen.
What, you mean “Lefty”? No, he got that another way.
First impressions:
What an entrance for our little psychopath! I’m just going to block my incredulity wrt her ability to be such a proficient faceless girl after doing so little to learn that stuff in the last season. Let’s call it magic, and leave it there, unless the show gives us reason to assume that there is more to this miraculous advancement (usually, I’d wonder if Arya is indeed Arya).
The alliance between Jon and Sansa will be a strenuous one, and Littlefinger noticed. For once, both were right: Sansa is thinking in the tradition of politically astute monarchs throughout the ages, while Jon is thinking about the necessities of a total war.
I think, she was right in challenging his ideas, and to do so in front of his bannermen, too. A king who no one dares to question and who does not allow it to happen, is a despot. Sansa knows how such a reign looks, and they don’t need this at all.
That Jon didn’t like being questioned in council, is understandable but worrying nonetheless because he didn’t seen to understand that Sansa had not undermined him:
Her course of action gave the bannermen an opportunity to express their positions openly instead of doing so only away from the king, gave Jon the chance to explain his thinking and to demonstrate his authority when he declared his decision final and Sansa accepted it publicly (and therefore reinforced his right to do so).
Still, Littlefinger is going to exploit every disagreement between the Starks. Yet, I wonder if Sansa is going to put all the pieces together that she already knows about Petyr on her own, or if she is going to need the help of a certain seer who is back south of the Wall …
Cersei, while bat-shit, is not wrong in her assessment of the situation, and so is Jamie. They need the Iron Fleet, and they need to control Highgarden. The enemy in the west is likely the easiest to overcome with their own troops, while Euron is the only one who can either repel or weaken Daenerys and bind substantial forces of the Dornish in the South by threatening their entire coastal areas.
If the show runners want to keep Cersei in power for a good part of the season (or longer), we can expect the Lannister-Greyjoy alliance to succeed to some degree in the beginning.
Daenerys return was as uneventful as I expected, though … it was a bit hard to believe that no one, not Tywin (yet, he might not have had the time before he met Tyrion in the privy), not Kevan or anyone else in power took the gateway to King’s Landing after Stannis left it wide open.
I had hoped for (the prospect of) a Hound-Arya reunion, but they seem to have passed by each other already.
The Sam scenes dragged a bit, imo, but I have come to expect that. Though they did at least give us a line (or two) into coming events on the show.
All in all, it was a pleasant return to Westeros, and I’m looking forward to the next episode.
There’ve got to be some stakes and loss this season, even though I think it’s near-inevitable that it will end with a victorious Dany-Jon alliance (this is not based on anything but my own intuition) on the run/withdrawing from the north against the onslaught of the White Walkers, setting up the final season for a 6-episode-long battle with the WW, culminating in a bittersweet ending (likely most of the characters dead, but the WW successfully repelled, and someone like Gendry or Sansa left to rule).
Thus I expect Euron’s fleet to do serious damage to Dany’s fleet and forces, likely killing some prominent characters (maybe Missandei and/or Grey Worm, Theon and/or Yara, the Sand Snakes, and maybe others, including a dragon perhaps, but probably not Tyrion, Varys, or Dany herself) before being ultimately defeated.
Eh, I suspect Varys has a dramatic death scene in his future.
The Greyjoys are pretty good at building ships. They should make that their industry instead of reaving and raping. The royal fleet was completely destroyed at the Blackwater. Would make a pretty penny for them.
Kind of amusing that the Greyjoys are allied with the crown for the promise of independence. Almost exactly the terms that Robb had Theon offered to his father. I guess Euron isn’t as tradition bound as Balon was.
I’ve heard of him, and actually saw him perform on SNL, and he is still such a non-entity to me that I didn’t recognize until name-dropped here. And while I know different people have different silly little things that break their own suspension of disbelief (I know I have several), seeing a recognizable face shouldn’t be one of them. Actors/performers don’t only appear once…at least, not if they want to eat with only their acting income.
My rationalization is that Stannis DID leave a relative handful of soldiers there to hold the castle, under some sixth-ranked commander, and of course there were all the maids and other servants as well. But then they got word that Stannis and all his troops got slaughtered and did the math: there was no way they could ever hold that castle against whichever lord it got deeded over to next. So they grabbed anything portable of worth and discreetly vanished from the scene.
Actually, my guess is that they WILL find a few servants lingering, down in the kitchens and basements and outbuildings. All perfectly willing to continue service under the new regime, why not? They have to eat and need some place to live, and one master is likely not that different from another, from a servant’s POV.
I imagine that happens all the time castles change ownership. Why bother killing off maids and cooks and blacksmiths and such who are trained and know the environs, when you’ll just have to go out and recruit/train replacements for them?
It was right after Sansa said how Ned was wrong for being too honor bound and someone else (I can’t recall at the moment) was wrong for being something else, so Jon’s response wasn’t what does a woman know, it was more, “so YOU have all the right answers”? He was saying be careful of your hubris that you know all the right things rather than dismissing her because she’s a woman.
I think the actor playing Samwell Tarly has incriminating photos or something of the show producers. I don’t understand why we spend so much time on him and his storyline otherwise.
Last night was an hour-long show. Did we really need two minutes of that time (or however long it was) set aside to show the drudgery montage of Sam cleaning chamber pots, pushing library carts, and spooning out watery soup? You can establish the same scenario in less than half that time. After about 15 seconds, I was thinking “Okay, we got it, let’s wrap this up and move on.”
The frustrating thing is, I LIKE Sam, and I want him to wind up being one of the heroes who saves Westeros from the Night King. But geez Louise – most of the scenes with him are just painfully slow, and do nothing whatsoever to advance the plot. Last night was a prime example. I bet Sam was on-screen for eight to 10 minutes. Even if he’s the one who winds up sitting on the Iron Throne somehow, the amount of time we’re spending on his storyline right now is out of kilter compared with others. The show is called Game of Thrones, not Game of Chamber Pots.