So you object to the casting of Margaery Tyrell on this series? Cuz if you saw The Tudors, you certainly recognized her. Which viewer’s level of familiarity with actors should be the standard?
You understand that this has been an established ability of the Faceless Men since the first time one appeared in the show, right? Now it’s suddenly unbelievable?
And as I remember that first Faceless Man, he didn’t even do the pull-the-mask-off thing. As I remember, he just turned around and looked completely different.
Cersei isn’t nearly as smart as she thinks she is; naturally she’s going to miss a lot of good opportunities and make some really stupid mistakes. Plus Jaimie is the only one of advisors that would dare to say no or tell her she’s making a mistake. And back to Dragonstone I just assume Greyworm sent out an advance party to make sure it was safe for his queen before she went ashore.
I assumed that’s what the three dragons were doing with their flyover.
To side with**Hocus Pocus **, it’s one thing to see Peter from Office Space, Ross from Friends, or Donnie Walburg as well known actors playing major characters in Band of Brothers. OTOH it’s pretty jarring to have Jimmy Fallon drive up in some random jeep in the Ardennes for no apparent reason other than to say “whats up”.
Kind of like Ed Sheeren’s Lannister squad asking Arya if she was “old enough to drink” as if Westeros even has a “drinking age”. In fact the whole scene seemed a bit out of place in a story where pretty much every group of soldiers has tried to rape her.
I took that as an additional bit of evidence that this group of soldiers was different. They seemed to almost adopt Arya as a little sister. Between their solicitous concern for her, and the soldier talking about his wife having a baby, they weren’t the usual group of faceless mooks looking to rape and kill their way across the continent.
I figure in general Faceless Men try to be secret assassins, so they don’t make a big show of taking off the mask. Arya wants everyone to know what happened.
The mask is literally Magic. It’s not a Mask; it’s more than that. It could easily be a Ring that allows her to change form. The mask is just an item that does the magic.
Your User Name is Hocus Pocus and you are griping about magic
They’re not different, they just haven’t been through the meat-grinder that is war yet. There’s a great monologue in one of the books that goes into to the fate of many lowborn sent to war. I’m putting it in spoilers, just in case, but it doesn’t really spoil anything. It’s a shame it hasn’t appeared on the show.
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“Ser? My lady?” said Podrick. “Is a broken man an outlaw?”
“More or less,” Brienne answered.
Septon Meribald disagreed. “More less than more. There are many sorts of outlaws, just as there are many sorts of birds. A sandpiper and a sea eagle both have wings, but they are not the same. The singers love to sing of good men forced to go outside the law to fight some wicked lord, but most outlaws are more like this ravening Hound than they are the lightning lord. They are evil men, driven by greed, soured by malice, despising the gods and caring only for themselves. Broken men are more deserving of our pity, though they may be just as dangerous. Almost all are common-born, simple folk who had never been more than a mile from the house where they were born until the day some lord came round to take them off to war. Poorly shod and poorly clad, they march away beneath his banners, ofttimes with no better arms than a sickle or a sharpened hoe, or a maul they made themselves by lashing a stone to a stick with strips of hide. Brothers march with brothers, sons with fathers, friends with friends. They’ve heard the songs and stories, so they go off with eager hearts, dreaming of the wonders they will see, of the wealth and glory they will win. War seems a fine adventure, the greatest most of them will ever know.
“Then they get a taste of battle.
“For some, that one taste is enough to break them. Others go on for years, until they lose count of all the battles they have fought in, but even a man who has survived a hundred fights can break in his hundred-and-first. Brothers watch their brothers die, fathers lose their sons, friends see their friends trying to hold their entrails in after they’ve been gutted by an axe.
“They see the lord who led them there cut down, and some other lord shouts that they are his now. They take a wound, and when that’s still half-healed they take another. There is never enough to eat, their shoes fall to pieces from the marching, their clothes are torn and rotting, and half of them are shitting in their breeches from drinking bad water.
“If they want new boots or a warmer cloak or maybe a rusted iron halfhelm, they need to take them from a corpse, and before long they are stealing from the living too, from the smallfolk whose lands they’re fighting in, men very like the men they used to be. They slaughter their sheep and steal their chickens, and from there it’s just a short step to carrying off their daughters too. And one day they look around and realize all their friends and kin are gone, that they are fighting beside strangers beneath a banner that they hardly recognize. They don’t know where they are or how to get back home and the lord they’re fighting for does not know their names, yet here he comes, shouting for them to form up, to make a line with their spears and scythes and sharpened hoes, to stand their ground. And the knights come down on them, faceless men clad all in steel, and the iron thunder of their charge seems to fill the world…
“And the man breaks.
“He turns and runs, or crawls off afterward over the corpses of the slain, or steals away in the black of night, and he finds someplace to hide. All thought of home is gone by then, and kings and lords and gods mean less to him than a haunch of spoiled meat that will let him live another day, or a skin of bad wine that might drown his fear for a few hours. The broken man lives from day to day, from meal to meal, more beast than man. Lady Brienne is not wrong. In times like these, the traveler must beware of broken men, and fear them…but he should pity them as well.”[/spoiler]
I’m just thinking of how Robb Stark treated the lannister kids and now quite possibly Jon is repeating history, and thats what Sansa is concerned about.
All the professional soldiers are either dead, deserted or covering Cersei. Now they are down to using home guard and new drafts to fill in where needed.
I think Tywin said that the Lannister mines were played out (i.e., no longer producing gold). The family was counting on financial support from the Tyrells, but of course that’s no longer there. So what source of income do they have left? Did they, like Stannis Baratheon, borrow from the Iron Bank to finance their army? Is the whole show going to end with a bank foreclosure?
Not to mention the theme of not repeating mistakes of the past, (See Jon and the Karstarks and Umbers)…most of those actors were in junior high when the series started weren’t they?
I forgot what happened with Mormont last season. How did he end up in a prison in the Citadel? Also, the Dragonstone entrance of Dany wasn’t the first time that she stood alone and exposed to a “sniper”. I’ve always assumed that a group of her soldiers always goes in and scopes out the neighborhood, before she makes her grand entrances and speeches.