It’s where she was born, and where her ancestor Aegon started his conquest of Westeros. It’s an emotional and symbolic place to launch the invasion. But yeah, if you were smart about it you’d probably land in Dorne and immediately invade the Stormlands for a more fertile area.
Yep, Ed Sheeran is a known singer, not an actor. They even had him sing in his cameo. It’d be like Mariah Carey showing up in Slaver’s Bay to sing to Tyrion.
I’m going to guess that LF figures out R+L=J. He’s got nothing but time to think right now, and it makes much more sense than the noble Ned Stark coming back with a bastard son.
I feel like he already suspects. Wasn’t there a scene a couple seasons ago where Sansa is talking about Lyanna and he gives her a look like “you don’t know the whole story.”
Thanks.
That island has a deep water port, and stands in the center of the only way into Blackwater Bay. If a naval power controls that island, Kings Landing is cut off from sea and trade routes completely.
In winter, they might be able just to starve out Kings Landing from there, if Westeros had an economy or farms or anything like that
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Her ancestors got to the Iron Throne starting from there.
Plus, she was born there.
And rule of cool…
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but yes, I also was wondering if there was a real dock on the other side of the island to bring in real supplies and stuff, so you were not the only one wondering about things 
I consider this a spoiler. I shut off the show before the coming next week segment for this very reason. I don’t know whether it’s against the rules of the thread but I would appreciate spoiler boxing anything about upcoming episodes that’s based on any knowledge beyond pure speculation.
I stay in this thread specifically to avoid being spoiled.
Agreed; Sansa’s behavior was appropriate for a small council meter, but not in front of the assembled royal court. Grant Northerners are less deferential to their superiors than Southerners, but still.
I’m wondering that too. If she is I don’t see Sansa getting an abortion. Even if Ramsey’s the father it simply isn’t something she’d do.
Agreed. Lord Frey liked his wives very young (& it’s implied he either drives them to suicide or bred them to death).
Speaking of the Iron Bank; it was suggested in another thread that the real reason the Faceless Men took Arya back is that the Iron Bank has contacted them to eliminate the Lannisters & their allies and Arya’s just a tool for them to use.
Definitely an isolation ward (where the maesters can also study greyscale).
Thanks, I can’t get that image out of my mind now. ![]()
So? It’s only a hang-up for a certain number of viewers. I sincerely doubt it’s a majority, and likely a very small minority using social media to appear larger in number (to themselves, mostly) than they really are. In this household, neither my wife nor I could pick Sheeran out of a line-up, and we had both watched his SNL episode. He didn’t dominate the scene, sang a song that has previously been featured in the show, and was basically another walk-on with spoken lines that some people are upset about because they know he gets a paycheck somewhere else. If Carey did the same, so be it. I’m ok with performers doing more than one thing.
Guys, stop being annoyed at things other people aren’t annoyed at! It’s super annoying.
We have been speculating for a very long time that Jaime is the one who ends up killing Cersei. He is, after all, the valonqar of prophecy (who Cersei incorrectly assumes to be Tyrion). I’d be shocked if it went any other way.
In GOT threads, if everyone doesn’t end up annoyed with something, I don’t think we did it right…
Yep. The speed is ridiculous. That was my biggest “Suspension of Disbelief” problem in this episode.
I’m nearly 50 years old, and my big brother still has trouble thinking of me as a grown-up. It’s just this thing about little sisters. Jon needs to step correct though, because Sansa is not having it.
I laughed, and gagged, and really felt for Sam before it was over. I think it was meant to give us a sense of time. Also, his stealing the keys would have looked petty otherwise. I felt like he had darn well earned 'em by the time he did it. . .
I don’t think he really does. The only time I’ve felt he was honest, was when he told Lysa the only woman he’d ever loved was Catelyn. I think his heart died when she rejected him after Ned’s death. I also think he knew that Sansa would believe that as his motivation.
Lady Frey - servant girl, there isn’t really much difference, is there? At any rate, she’s saved now.
I thought the soldier scene was really important. It seems to me that both Sansa and Arya are going through a pivotal period in which they may keep their humanity or lose it. They are both determined to win and they have gained some truly nasty skills with which to do it. But can they manage not to lose themselves in the process?
Arya’s giggles contrasted so beautifully against “Tell them Winter came . . .”
And the only part of Ed Sheeran that I found distracting was that hair-do of his. All brushed forward from the center back? It looks so ludicrous. He’s a decently attractive man otherwise, but UGH!
When Euron’s fleet landed at King’s Landing, the camera focused on one ship in particular. Presumably this was his flagship, but it was elaborately decorated, with a gllded carved figurehead. It did not look at all like something someone slapped together. As said, this was the product of skilled shipbuilders.
I feel like he already suspects. Wasn’t there a scene a couple seasons ago where Sansa is talking about Lyanna and he gives her a look like “you don’t know the whole story.”
Be hilarious if it was the worst kept secret. “Everyone knowwwwws!”
Regarding all the ships, is it possible that the Iron Islands simply didn’t have enough men to warrant more ships in recent times? IOW, they could build plenty, but didn’t need them until they found an ally (Cersei) with a common goal. Or did Euron discover some magical way to make 1,000 ships that fast? Could the Iron Bank have funded Euron? I think Dany and her dragons ruling Westeros would force the bank to write off the loans to Stannis and Westeros. The Lannisters always pay their debts, at least.
I would think that the Night’s Watch would have payed special attention to both ends of the wall. Did they just not have enough men? I guess that some wildlings had the tools to climb over, but the most obvious method would be to go around, under water if necessary.
While the leading candidates for the ultimate Iron Throne sitter are Dany, Jon Snow, Cersei, and maybe Tyrian or Sansa, I think we’re all underestimating Littlefinger. He, after all, is the the architect of this race. He set the wheels in motion (by seducing Jon Arryn’s wife, killing Jon Arryn, setting up the Starks by having Lady Arryn send a fictitious message to her sister) and kept them in motion (by many actions, including offing Joffrey). You think he doesn’t have something big planned?
The ships are pure magic. Quick googling suggests it would take probably a year to make a ship like that if you had all the raw materials at the ready. You’d need tens of thousands of trained ship builders and enough space to build them all in parallel, and to do it in probably double time.
Plus, there’s no reason that the Crown couldn’t have built them. They had probably 5 years since their fleet was destroyed and an order of magnitude more men and resources to produce ships. Euron had like 6 months, maybe. Better to just go with it.
I would think that the Night’s Watch would have payed special attention to both ends of the wall. Did they just not have enough men?
Only three of the castles along the wall have been manned recently, Castle Black and the castles at the eastern and western end, because the watch didn’t have enough men.
As I recall, the Night’s Watch at Castle Black had been reduced to around 50 by the most recent battles. I don’t know how many might have been left at the other castles, but they are really stretched thin.
While the leading candidates for the ultimate Iron Throne sitter are Dany, Jon Snow, Cersei, and maybe Tyrian or Sansa, I think we’re all underestimating Littlefinger.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Littlefinger sitting on the Iron Throne at some point, but everything around him would be reduced to ashes.
We have been speculating for a very long time that Jaime is the one who ends up killing Cersei. He is, after all, the valonqar of prophecy (who Cersei incorrectly assumes to be Tyrion). I’d be shocked if it went any other way.
I wouldn’t. It’s just the kind of misdirection GRRM likes. How about this? We get to the buildup of Jaime being about to kill her, but as he’s heading for her he starts to get dizzy, and he falls down and dies while Cersei leers above him and says, “You think I’m as stupid as the Mad King? I know who you are and what you would do, so I acted first. Goodbye, little brother.”
So then Tyrion finds a dead Jamie, and in rage he goes on to kill Cersei, just as she had originally feared.