Game of Thrones 7.06 "Beyond The Wall" 8/20/17

I like it! With Brienne as Lady Commander of her Queensguard. That’ll show 'em!

Agreed. Sad as I would’ve been to lose, say, Tormund and Gendry, having Jon’s frostbitten party take much heavier casualties would’ve been more of an Old School GOT shocker.

Say what you will about the undead hordes north of the Wall, they need very little in the way of office supplies.

Disagree. Lady Lyanna is tough and determined; Arya seems almost sociopathic.

Well, we already have a Hound who says “cunt” a lot.

Rational or not, everyone is going to be terrified of a literal army of the dead. Remember the end of Hardhome? Watching your just fallen comrades rise from the dead would be pee in your pants scary. Logically, yes, the army of the dead isn’t that effective of a fighting force, but realistically everyone is going to lose their shit.

Watching the Night King make that incredible throw was satisfying in the moment, but in retrospect it sort of ruins all the previous scenes where people have escaped from him very slowly. I’m thinking in particular of “Hardhome” where Jon Snow and his buddies were maybe 30-40 feet away from him in an unmaneuverable rowboat. Did you happen to run out of ice spears that day, Night King? I don’t have a freaky ballista arm and I probably could have hit those dudes from there.

Sure they will be scared the first time they seem them, but once they realize how easy it is to kill the wights, I doubt trained soldiers would stay scared for too long.

Forget hardhome, in this ep the heroes were all stranded on a rock not moving. The Night King must have forgotten about his ability to throw.

The goal wasn’t to kill the handful of puny men stuck on a rock. It was to requisition a dragon.

Agreed. I think it was a mistake to make them so easy for the gang to fight. The one Jon fought in Season 1 was much tougher and an army of them would pose a serious threat.

  1. Arya is clearly fucked up by PTSD and who knows what else. I think it’s entirely within her character to reach fucked up decisions be that allow her to satisfy her murderous rage.

  2. The Nights King has never been in a hurry. I always thought he allowed Jon to escape Hardhome.

Martin is “too busy” to watch the show. I guess he’s worn out from all that book writing.

George R. R. Martin’s agent claims he does not watch Game of Thrones – Metro US

This. And apparently verified by the link in post# 229.

Every time the fans are coming up with ornate theories to explain the stupid on screen, it turns out to just be stupid.

Yeah, and it hasn’t been established that Jon can’t shoot lasers out of his cock, so if that happens no reason to be confused.

Unless the Night King is future seeing, that doesn’t hold up. The zombie horde didn’t know the group would hole up on the island, they didn’t even know they were there before the heroes ambushed the small raiding party. Also, the group was on the verge of freezing to death, that could have ruined any such dragon hunting plans. Plus, once the zombies realized the ice was frozen they advanced trying in earnest to kill them. And lastly, he grabbed for his spear quite late in the altercation.

I’m almost certain that he is. It’s already been shown that he knows when Bran is watching him, past or present. He’s basically the Ice Bran.

How else do you explain the conveniently small wight squad with their one sacrificial Walker, right where Jon and the Hound expected them? And the conveniently still-animated wight after the WW was dispatched? Or the convenient chains? Or the fact that Jon & Co sat around being watched until right before the exact moment Dany shows up with a dragon?

That dragon capture was planned long in advance, and it seems like they even manipulated what the Hound saw in the fire a thousand miles away.

Given the history of the show, I think it’s more likely to be poor writing. Like seriously, the whole one wight surviving thing was so lame, they had to have Jorah exposition it right after. Jon & Co sat around being watched until the Hound threw a rock that bounced off the ice - that’s the impression I got. I find that much more plausible than the Night King was waiting for just the right moment when his whole horde would attack, get repelled mostly, just in time for a dragon to show up. It doesn’t seem like 4 dimensional chess at the moment, more like checkers.

In episode six? Who predicted that?

Oh boy not this nonsense again

Don’t give them ideas! They’ve shown us with Ed Sheeran what they’re capable of…

Heh.

I suppose everyone is different, but it does seem unlikely that he wouldn’t be curious to see his own characters and what they’re up to. “Too busy”…hmn.

My thought exactly.

I don’t think the word almost is necessary here.

I think you guys are reading the wrong message from our heroes being able to fight off so many undead. It’s not that they’re trying to show us that the undead are weak, they’re just showing us that named characters are ridiculous badasses. This is like when Jorah/Grey Worm/Fabio took on an entire city’s army alone.