Game of Thrones 8.02 "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" 4/21/19 [SHOW ONLY]

It sure did look like Sansa had possibly romantic feelings for Theon, did it not? I thought they shared one too many significant looks. And hey, if Grey Worm and Missandei can hook up…

The fact that we have yet to see Melisandre leads me to suspect that she is going to make a surprise entrance in the battle just as all hope is lost - possibly having to do with all the people on the scene who have King’s blood.

I suspect that’s why Gendry is there, plot-wise. There will be some heroic suicide mission required by someone with King’s blood, and Jon Snow will be planning to do it but Gendry will step up and do it instead. Or something like that. We have established that his blood is powerful magic for the Lord of Light, and now he is where it can be useful.

When we first saw her Sansa was a girly-girl and quite attracted to boys. Now her abuse by Joffrey and especially Ramsay may have given her an aversion to men, but I don’t think that there’s much question that her basic orientation is hetero. This is in contrast to Arya, who up to now has shown minimal sexual interest in anyone, male or female. (Not to mention dressing as a male for most of the show, even when she wasn’t pretending to be a boy.)

Sansa has shown romantic interest in both Joffrey and Loras, although she was prepubescent at the time and probably 50% or more of it was just in love with the idea of being a princess anyway.

Unlike the case with Littlefinger, however, the remark didn’t reveal to Jaime that Bran was omniscient, since Bran could have just recovered from his amnesia about the incident. He finds that out in the godswood.

As did I.

I/we shouldn’t, given that, by GOT standards, it was pretty mild. But I did.

It’s because I’ve been (we have been) watching this actress since she was a child, and it’s unsettling to see her perform in even the gauziest, not-quite-full-frontal, maybe-a-body-double sexualized scene.

I found it uncomfortable.

Yeah, it was uncomfortable. Imagine how uncomfortable the actor who played Gendry, who worked with Masie when she was 12 years old and probably treated her like an older brother, felt about having a sex scene with her. Weird all around.

At least in the link provided the showrunners said they left it up to Masie exactly how much she was willing to reveal.

Sansa has never been prepubescent within the time period portrayed on the show (other than in flashbacks that didn’t involve her IIRC).

Okay, but we also don’t NEED scenes of battle, dragons flying, etc. Many of us WANT those things.

My thought is similar. The dead send a token force to attack Winterfell (and siege it), but are actually mostly still moving south.

Our heroes break the siege, and then are forced into a moral quandary of heading south now to help Cersei’s army…or do what she intended and wait to mop up the “survivors.” Although that’s a terrible plan as Dany and Jon’s armies actually have appropriate weapons (dragons, dragon glass) but Cersei will just be feeding more bodies to the Night King.

Depends on your definition…Sansa gets her 1st period during the series.

Huh, I don’t remember that but I will take your word for it. Sophie Turner was 15 when the show began and had clearly already gone through a growth spurt.

Yeah, the actress was 15 but Sansa was 12.

Book or TV? I am pretty sure they aged Sansa in the TV series to make future events slightly less icky.

Brian

I had a crazy thought today. Bronn shows up at Winterfell, the dragon remembers him as the person that shot at him with the Scorpion and immediately eats him. No cooking him first, just bites him in half and swallows the pieces. I like Bronn but that would be awesome.

Yes, the idea is to instill in viewers a motivation for Dany to do whatever awful thing she’s going to do, ‘because she has wanted the I.T. all her life’------except, as you rightly point out, the opposite is what has actually been established.

It’s that essence of lazy writing that this show has exemplified all too often: don’t go to all the trouble of establishing what you need to in order to get the emotional effect you want. Instead, just make a declaration to set up that emotional effect—even if it’s contradicted by what’s been shown before—and hope no one will notice.

It’s very annoying.

To set up a Big Emotional Payoff (see ‘bad writing’). Of course if the character Sansa were as wise as we were told she was, she would never have behaved as she did in that conversation.

And it was also another example of lazy writing. Would a reasonably-intelligent person choose the moment before a life-and-death major battle to divulge something that can’t possibly be resolved then and there, but instead is almost guaranteed to cause a major distraction (at best) and likely antagonism in a needed ally? Of course not.

But it ‘ramps up the suspense,’ so let’s have Jon behave like a complete idiot for no reason, and reveal the secret at the worst possible time.

This would have been too sick even for this show, but just rationally, in terms of strategy and utilitarian ethics: wouldn’t it have been wise to incinerate every person who could not fit (or was unwilling to go) inside Winterfell’s walls, as a preemptive move to deny the opposing army more bodies?

Me, too. (Yes, I’d be amazed if she’s around for episodes 4, 5, or 6, unless as a wight.)

How many of the characters will end up as wights? I suppose someone, somewhere, is making book on this.

Yes, that’s pretty much a sure thing.

I’m picturing Lieutenant Gorman and Private Vasquez in the air duct, activating the grenade as the enemy draws near.

Something like that for Brienne and Tormund, maybe. After all those times of eye-rolling at him, Brienne finally acknowledges his worth as a warrior as they face death together.*

Well, as has been noted, his blood could be important. But now that Arya carries his child----and we can pretty much count on her having become pregnant, given the type of story we’re dealing with----he may well be expendable.
*Granted, she did give him a bit of acknowledgement in this episode already.

I’m finding that random strangers not acknowledging that a real person grows from a girl to an actual adult woman a whole lot creepier than anything that happened on the show.

The problem is she didn’t do a whole lot of growing.

:confused: You think she had that same shape of body in S1?

At least the entire first season.

Maisie Williams was 13 when Season 1 was shot, and 21 when this season was shot. Here she is from Season 1-6. I don’t think she looked like this at 13.

It’s actually fortunate that she didn’t grow very tall, so she could continue to play a waiflike Arya. It would have been awkward if she had shot up and grown taller than Sophie Turner.