Game of Thrones 8.02 "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" 4/21/19 [SHOW ONLY]

I’m sure you corrected me last time I miswrote the name. Always be the Blackadder connection to me. I will likely repeat the name wrong again soon…

Most sensible would be Meera, she’s not far off. Daario’s running Mereen isn’t he?

Regarding Arya’s spear - I can see only two possibilities. One, she saves the day by killing the zombie dragon with it or two, she actually takes out the Night King. My money is one the first one.

In Season 1, Episode 1 she tells Cersei that she is 13.

I think the idea is to not put their top fighters around Bran to draw the Night King out. The Iron Born are there to defend against any Wights that might make it through, and then once the Night King shows up Jon will come swooping in on a dragon.

She wanted her family to reclaim the throne her entire life. In that dialog she didn’t say she wanted it for herself.

As previously discussed, the fact that Melisandre would return has been strongly suggested in dialogue in previous seasons. This has important implications for how the battle against the Night King will go.

Regarding the others, this information is from available cast lists, but I’ll spoiler it anyway.

The actors who play Melisandre, Edmure, and Robin are all listed as confirmed in the cast for season 8, and none of the others. The latter two surprise me. I have to think the inclusion of two such useless characters mean that both the Riverlands and The Vale get overrun, and they turn up as either refugees or wights.

No, but just because she doesn’t look like she did in S1 doesn’t mean she doesn’t still look like a teenager. A young teenager. You could easily put her with the cast of Stranger Things and she wouldn’t stand out.

She’s not just short. She looks like a child.

It’s still sexist / patronizing if you wouldn’t treat a male in the same way. I suspect if Arya was a man very few people would be a squicked out.

It’s really the standard “men conquer, women are conquered” dynamic common to puritanical patriarchal societies. We cheer young men successfully initiating sex, but when it happens to a girl it’s somehow a loss of innocence and maybe her value. That the delicate egg that is her feminine virtue has gone splat.

It’s not even that a man is conquering her in this case. Arya is the one in control here. There’s no issue of her being coerced and corrupted by it. She’s a strong adult that got what she wanted.

This is a different manifestation of the dynamic that boys raped by cute teachers are cheered and reverse the sexes and people want the death penalty. It runs so deep you don’t even think you’re doing it.

But if you wouldn’t feel the same way if her gender were flipped then it’s absolutely the result of a patriarchal and patronizing society implanting those values in you.

I felt kind of strange about it since I just binged watched all 7 seasons, and last Thursday, she was only 10!

Nobody says this about 5"9’ Sansa. Nobody would say this about a boy. And nobody has any problem that this “little girl” is a stone cold killer with dozens of deaths to her credit.

Our society is messed up and upside down. GoT tries to subvert these expectations and the audience wants no part of that. That’s what creeps me out.

We never really learned how Qyburn resurrected the Mountain, whether it was magic or weird science or some combination of both. But as soon as an author starts bringing the dead back to life there’s never a good moment to stop doing so. Why that one and not another? And another? Good thing we’re running out of time.

I think the Mountain was only mostly dead. There’s a big difference between mostly dead and all dead.

There’s also a difference between all-alive like Jon and Beric, and sort of alive like the Mountain and Uncle Joren. And dead-but-walking-around like wights.

Murderin’s OK as long as we don’t see a nipple.

Nope, I do not agree. As I have already said, it was like watching my own child discover her sexuality. I don’t think anyone is saying it was wrong (once they did a quick check on her age) just uncomfortable to watch. I would not want to watch my daughter getting it on. I’d feel the same if Bran sprung a woody and had Melisandri fellate him on camera. These are my children and I don’t wanna see that!

When Tommen was getting with Margery, I thought that too was kinda standout-ish. Arya scene doesn’t bug me, but it’s understandable that it makes some people uncomfortable.

Yeah, this. Obviously it wasn’t objectively wrong, it just felt weird. I would have felt the same thing if the kid who played Jojen got it on, and he’s almost freaking 30.

I don’t want to be quite that extreme either, but I share the general sentiment. Halfway through this week’s episode it dawned on me that next week is going to be one 90-minute-long battle, and I started dreading it.

I find the fighting scenes in superhero movies and TV shows (Hello, “Daredevil”) to be way too long, especially the climactic fight scenes at the end. And those aren’t anywhere near 90 minutes long.

I’m going to be prepared to be bored.

Also, I won’t be able to watch Sunday night, so I’m going to have to be extra careful about avoiding media, because people will definitely start blurting out who died and stuff like that.

I was somewhat uncomfortable watching Maisie Williams undress (I kept thinking, "she’s of age now, right? I hope? "), but I’m glad they did it. It was totally appropriate for the character, and needed.

But I still felt the need to google up her age (22) and Arya’s age (20) afterward.

The show is very interesting in how it handles subjects like sexuality and misogyny/gender-based discrimination. While it certainly veers into the territory of relishing in abuse tropes, it does sometimes feel quite subversive, for example, in the depictions of Daenerys, Cersei, Sansa, Arya, Brienne, Gilly, Lady Lyanna Mormont, Yara/Asha, etc. They’ve become my favorite characters. At the beginning of the series I really disliked Sansa and Arya’s plots

Come to that, Ser Brienne of Tarth also needs her own sex scene. We know she is attracted to pretty boys like Renly Baratheon.

Are we suspending disbelief such that a full-grown Maisie is playing a, what?, thirteen-year-old girl? I know that time’s a little wonky in the show, but how old is Arya supposed to be now?
ETA: Ninjaed.

I just want to point out that the battle episodes of GoT have amazing narrative flow. Much better than super-hero movies and MUCCCCHHHHH better than any non original trilogy Star Wars or Abrams Trek movie/DISCO

But yeah…90 minutes, in the dark??, may be too much of a stretch. But I’m sure its going to be great, and im going to get destroyed and be a wreck.

As for Maisie…all i asked was just dont show me too much. It came reeeeeal close, but i handled it.

Edit: As for spoilers…yup, my FB feed has just thrown in the towel and said “Fuck you. Watch or stay off FB”