Game of Thrones 8.03 "The Long Night" 4/28/19 [Show discussion]

But the show explicitly goes out of its way to say that only 1-3 people in the world are capable of doing that, and Tywin had to import someone from across the world and pay handsomely. It’s not something any blacksmith can do. We know of no one in the North that can do it.

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How many times do we have to say this? He said “You can’t just melt down Valyrian steel and re-use it.” You absolutely can’t, and it says so in that episode. You have to re-forge it again, and very few people, only one in Westeros, can do it.

I think his point is that if you could re-forge it into a sword, you could re-forge it into a bunch of arrowheads.

The key difference isn’t the shape or purpose, but rather having a weaponsmith that knows the arcane process of being able to re-forge Valyrian steel while still retaining its magic. It’s made clear that this is a rare and exotic process that only a few people can do, all of whom are in Essos. Tywin had to import one at great cost.

If, for some reason, one of those weaponsmiths were in Winterfell, presumably they could do exactly that - turn a sword into arrowheads. Or maybe not - maybe there’s some exotic material needed. But there’s obviously supposed to be some sort of magic involved in the process, or some arcane special skill. It’s not just a matter of melting and reforging that any smith could do.

… wherein it’s explained that there are only three people in the world that know how to work Valyrian steel. The melted metal would be worthless without that expertise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCItXEFnen0

Here’s Tywin giving Jaime one of the swords re-forged from Ice.

Jaime: “No one’s made a Valyrian steel sword since the Doom of Valyria.”

Tywin: “There are three living smiths who know how to re-work Valyrian steel. The finest of them was in Volantis. He came here to King’s Landing at my invitation.”

You’re welcome.

Watching it on my computer on HBO Go increased my enjoyment of this episode by 100%. What a difference! And now, goodnight everybody.

Yes, I thought the same when seeing the piles of bodies around the walls of Winterfell. Grave diggers will have work for the decade to come.

And? It still means that it can be melted and reused.

I just saw the whole episode, in fact, since it has quite a lot of good scenes. I didn’t say anybody could work it. I said it could definitely be melted and reused in response to someone saying that the show established it couldn’t be melted and reused.

Whatever it takes to make “useful” Valerian steel is only known to 3 people. You could theoretically use one of those 3 guys to melt down a sword and make arrowheads, but that would be idiotic considering you can make perfectly suitable arrows out of dragonglass that is immensely more plentiful and can be fashioned by many more people.

I was bothered by how passive Bran was in the last episode and came up with a silly idea to try to explain it. Bran began to suspect that the Night King was a creature that he manifested out of his own imagination on a bad warg trip before he understood how to control his powers. When NK was about to execute Bran, Bran calmly accepted his fate because he thought it might just be the end of NK and his minions too. However, it became a moot point once Arya turned into a super ninja and took care of business on her own.

Agreed, but it’s the thought I had while watching it.

Yeah, as I wrote, I don’t know what she meant by that.

Re Arya, as I said on Reddit. She was tracking the NK. From a distance. As her Faceless Men training taught her. The last bit, the lunge was not training, it was sisterly anger causing her to thrush cautiontj the winds. It was get away from my brother you bastard. She abandoned her earlier plan when she saw Bran was going to be killed.
Which is his she got past the White Walkers, who were surprised.
If she had tried to sneak past, she would have been intercepted.

Ok, I missed that bit. However, wasn’t there a bit at Castle Black when they first encountered a wight, and couldn’t kill it unless burning it, and Jon might have had longclaw then (perhaps he didn’t at that point).

I’ll just believe that Bran had finally seen how things were most likely to go and had to let it play out.

We saw him walk though a wall of dragon fire during the Fellowship of the Wight episode. Granted, he wasn’t getting the full blast treatment at the time, he was just walking over the still-burning corpses of wights, but he certainly didn’t seem to care. In fact, the flames sort of die out as he walks through. So, pretty much expected, I’d say.

Jon throws a lit lantern at it because he doesn’t have any other weapon, his regular sword was stuck in its chest. He saves Mormont’s life in that moment, so Mormont gives him Longclaw as a thank you.

If a show has dragons, giants and zombies, it’s only natural that it should have Pixies, too.

I’m missing one Eunoch and a bisexual there.

(If that’s not a feed line, I don’t know what is.)

Yara on the Bis, Varys and Greyworm for eunochs.

Was Missandei, bi?

One thing which struck me a number of times during a rewatch,

Briennes’ a squealer.