I’m pretty sure he did; he was the chief of the King’s Guard, and I think that carried with it a renouncement of any birthright.
I gotta say, the ridiculous tactical errors that continue to be made are really pulling me out of this story. I can ignore minor things, but huge glaring mistakes made time and time again by folks who ought to know better … it’s really bothering me. The misuse of siege engines, the lack of scouting, the way an army’s most valuable assets are frittered away due to negligence or stupidity, the inability to learn and adapt … all these are frustratingly evident. Someone else said it’s approaching Walking Dead-levels of dumb tactics, and I agree. That kind of stuff is what made me stop watching that show.
And Tyrion has gone from a schemer and strategist of the highest level, to a caricature of himself, almost Jon-like in his inability to predict what his adversaries will do.
This show ought to be sprinting toward a massive crescendo, an ending that would be a cultural touchpoint and resonate within the fantasy and non-fantasy genres alike. Instead it seems to be slouching toward King’s Landing, a television sports car that’s running out of gas and sputtering even as the finish line comes in sight.
Well the reason I wasn’t sure that they knew that Dany knew is because they never discussed what Dany may do to Jon, and I’d think they may have thought about that.
Is it actually possible that they will…
have Dany go “mad Queen” and become a crazy vengeance-fueled maniac? She insists they attack the city, killing all the innocents along the way, like a total wipeout type thing. Jon Snow realizes this is insane and agrees to take her out, something Tyrion and Varys are clearly thinking might be necessary.
Cue dramatic scene: Jon tells Dany she must stop and turn back. “You’re tearing me apart, Dany!” or something like that. She doesn’t care. John has to kill Dany in order to stop her from wiping out a bunch of innocents.
Someone else kills Cercei and her hand(and Euron or whatever his name is). John is clearly the one to become king.
But…he turns it down! “I never wanted it! I won’t take it.” He heads to the far North, leaving Westeros.
Tyrion or Sansa becomes king/queen, though I think Tyrion is more likely since Sansa has betrayed John.
OK, so I made all that up, but it requires them to totally ruin Dany, a character they spent the entire show building up to be good(and sane!).
As soon as they did to set up shot of the dragons flying I immediately saw him getting hit with bolts. It played out exactly the way my mind thought it would. The only difference is I thought Dragonstone would be occupied and the shots would come from land and not ships.
We have seen them hover and shoot and do running fire. There is no need to speculate the show has shown that both are possible.
Except for this of course.
Euron’s ships have those giant Kraken sails. Not hard to spot at that height.
I would spend all my money betting against you. Gendry is what he is. His story won’t change any further. Still an outside chance he’ll get on the throne. Zero chance he’s Cersei’s son.
Not much of a spoiler but I’ll box it because it comes from an interview. I saw an interview with the producers who basically said that it’s no problem to CGI the Dragon because no one has ever seen a real dragon. They can fully your brain into making it look realistic. When you CGI a giant dog it looks like a cartoon dog. They didn’t forget about any of them. They made the conscious choice to minimize their roles as much as possible. I’m sure the little bit that they put ghost in was fan service to all of the complaints but they certainly don’t want to use him anymore.
I don’t think the time compression means that much. No one was riding into rescue at the last minute so it doesn’t really matter if they cut out the boring bits.
That is the whole core of her character. She wants to think that she’s doing everything for noble reasons but in reality it’s all for selfish reasons. She wants to be queen because it’s her destiny. Because her father was king. Because no one else deserves it in her eyes. If she really cared what happened to the people she would turn it over to Jon because he can easily unite the north and the south. But she won’t because her main motivation is power just as much as Cersei.
I really am starting to believe this is going to end happily and neither Jon nor Dany will die. However, I think if she does die, I think it will be in battle, taking out the boats or something or maybe, boom, right when she first attacks the city. Some way that doesn’t force Jon to kill her. They’re telegraphing her “going mad” quite obviously, to the point the only way to subvert expectations is to NOT have her go mad. Also, really, what’s so “mad” about her lately? She makes some upset faces, which honestly, are totally reasonable given the circumstances?
Do you notice that in these later episodes the subverting expectations has been NOT to do what GRRM would have done, and instead do what the fans want? Like, I’m sure most people would be sad if tons of main characters died at the battle of winterfell, but everybody expected it, and, NOPE, to the point of WTF? How the hell did they survive piles of zombies coming at them for a half hour straight?? Oh yeah, cause the fans want it, not cause they expect it.
I feel the same about the Jamie/Brienne hookup. Satisfy the shippers.
Speaking of dragon food, why do they always show rib cages and such from the animals the dragons eat? Are they really going to be picking meat from between bones? Seems like they would be eating the whole goat or sheep or whatever in one bite.
Prediction–Dany is knocked off her dragon and both are killed while attempting some bit of derring-do. They win, Cersei dies, and Jon refuses the throne. He stalks away to the north, not often to be seen again.
Dany, not actually dead, but broken in body and spirit, finds him at their spot, and they retire together from a world now made safe. Safer, anyway.
Tyrion takes the Iron Throne, either through his claim to have been uncle to two kings or through whatever “breaking the wheel” means. Turns out that he was the stealth main character all along, and his own Hero’s Journey was all to make him a good and decent ruler.
I mean not giving a shit about massacring a bunch of innocent folks by dragon fire in order to win the upcoming Battle of King’s Landing seems to be a bit mad. Perhaps cruel is a better way to describe it.
If you think that Dany has always been depicted as always being good and sane you haven’t been paying attention. From the very first season, she’s been shown being utterly cruel and ruthless to those who stood in her way, or who she thought wronged her. And those flashes of her character are becoming more frequent and significant. Her flipping out and deciding to “Burn them all” is consistent with her character as it’s been established over eight seasons.
I envision a world of wagon-sized owl pellets crashing from the sky. Dragon-pellet scavenging could end up becoming its own economy, alleviating the need to even keep sheep as livestock, as the pellet-mongers guild provides the wool and fur to the clothiers, rugmakers, etc.
What about, instead of an Iron Throne, millions of socially-conscious and unified citizens of Westeros, all just stepping up and doing their part?
IMHO, they’ve really dumbed down the show over the past couple of seasons. The best part of GoT was always the political intrigue and unexpected plot twists. They didn’t even have massive set-piece battles until the end of Season 2. It was like the show Rome where a couple of riders show up and exclaim “Hooray!! We won the battle of whatevershire!” And the battles they did have seemed like it took at least a season to maneuver the players in place.
I was one who thought Gendry could be Robert’s and Cercei’s son. But I watched Jaime’s reaction when he heard the news that Gendry was Robert’s bastard and thought I might see shock. But he only showed mild curiosity. Since he is the only person in the show who could possibly know if that was true, I say that idea is dead.
