Yep. Zero chemistry.
I assume it’s the same as the battle for Winterfell: Make it look like every single person (except all the named characters!) died in the battle, and then next episode reveal that instead of everyone dying, only half died. I expect a similar reveal next week.
All of the soldiers were killing, but wasn’t it Jon’s own Northmen who were doing the raping and pillaging?
Sansa has never wanted anything more than to be Queen. Of everything. From the child that went off to Kings Landing to the wise leader she’s become, the Iron throne has always been her goal. And Cersei had no legitimate claim to the throne, either. She just took over when Tommen failed his first flying lesson. Might makes right in Westeros.
I disagree. When she was a child, she wanted the idea of being queen. Now that she’s grown up (and seen what being queen is like), she only wants the North for the North.
It was. The Unsullied were just murdering, and the Dothraki look completely different.
Game Revealed is up on YT. Fave quotes so far.
Benioff: Up til now Dubrovnik has been the stand-in for Kings Landing. The good people of Dubrovnik did not want us to destroy their city.
Emilia: (Re: Danys turn to the dark side) We all face moral conundrums. You can say ‘walk away from the chocolate cake’, but that doesn’t mean you’re going to. Actually thats not a moral conundrum. Eat as much fucking chocolate cake as you want to.
Really? When, where, and how do we know it’s not baloney?
Sansa may have started the series wanting to be Queen of the Seven Kingdoms, but her experiences in King’s Landing have probably soured those desires for good. She seems to want to simply rule in the North and leave the southron politicians to themselves (as long as they leave the North alone too).
Perhaps I overstated her coldness, but it didn’t feel natural at all to me. She rides all the way down to KL – days and days on horseback with the Hound – and then, at the last minute, right before hell’s about to break loose, she’s convinced by him to abandon her quest for vengeance, and then wanders around the city aimlessly, finally sort of deciding to help people, and failing? Not only did it not feel natural to me, but I didn’t see what purpose it served for the story. I don’t think it told us anything new about Arya, unless it’s just that she’s indecisive and chose the exact wrong moment to try and abandon vengeance.
We only saw one doing it, as far as I know. I don’t think it’s meant to make any particular statement about Northmen in particular, but just about bloodlust and war in general, and reinforcing Jon’s reaction and horror to what happened as he murdered the guy on the spot. Grey Worm gave in to bloodlust and raping and pillaging is what the Dothraki do.
It did, but I’ll note that multiple endings have been leaked and I believe that multiple endings were filmed.
If you really want to know, PM and I’ll tell you where to look.
I know we don’t really have a specific no leaks rule in this thread… but we’re one week away from the show ending. Can we not use this thread to talk about and point to leaks? I feel like if people want to discuss the leaked ending early that could probably be its own thread.
And for fucks sake, please don’t be one of those assholes who reads leaks and then tries to prove how smart you are by “predicting” the ending.
Early on, she wanted to be the king’s wife, I think, more than she wanted to be queen. Of course, she has been thought a lot, and changed a lot.
Now, I am not so sure. She certainly seems comfortable being the queen of the North, who says she doesn’t want the whole enchillada?
Well, the Unsullied arn’t going to rape, and the Dothraki were set to rampage.
I saw her change of heart as a reasonable reaction to the changed situation. She was well into KL before Dany went all Dracarys. It is reasonable to abandon the idea of killing someone who is almost certainly already dead.
That’s why I think she’s got yet another role to play, because the only purpose for her to wind up in King’s Landing was so that she could see the destruction Daeneris caused up close and personal. They spent a lot of time with Arya trying to save poor women and children, only to see them die horribly.
So, here’s her arc in the last episode: She goes to King’s Landing with the sole purpose of killing Cersei Lannister. But once she gets there and sees the horror and destruction going on around her, something snaps and it happens when Sandor tells her sincerely not to go further because she’ll die. So she finally backs down and gives up her quest to finish her list. So she tries to escape but in so doing runs across all sorts of innocent people who she tries to save and fails.
This sets her up to be perfectly motivated to kill Daeneris. And she’s in the right place, and she has a horse she can use to get to Dragonstone or wherever she needs to be.
So while Arya didn’t actually DO anything of import at King’s Landing, her presence there was necessary for her character development.
That’s the story I’m sticking to until it’s proven totally wrong next week.
I paid attention on my second watch. Like you, I looked at the nose markings. I too am wondering why they insisted so much on this horse. But indeed I can’t see how it could matter.
Maybe Daenerys will make it a senator?
I watched the episode a first time just before going to work, so I didn’t have time and fast forwarded quite a bit. It’s even more brutal on rewatch, I had missed many scenes of devastation.
I didn’t realize it the first time : Varys was trying to poison Danaerys, right?
And have we ever seen Cersei so emotional? I don’t think she has ever been, even when her children died.
Specially when you are just as likely to die as well.
Since they have pretty much described the broadcast events as the occurred.
It would be nice if we dispensed with the extended discussion of possible spoilers