Game of Thrones 8.05 "The Bells" 5/12/19 [Show discussion]

I’m going to repeat my horrific “prediction” from last week…part of it kind of came true…

So yeah, they are going to ruin Dany.

Jaime and (probably) Cersei are dead. I was mad that Jaime went back, but I think that last scene completed his arc nicely. He didn’t go bad on us, but he did go back to Cersei and had what I thought was the most touching moment you can get in an incest storyline.

Bronn…we’ve decided to give you Kings Landing.

That he tried his best to be a good person, but couldn’t shake his love for Cersei. Feels more real than some ‘arc’ idea where he kills that love.

Dany has been murdering prisoners for seasons now. She was never good and sane (completely).

Knowing what Cersei’s done, killing that love is the obvious sensical thing.

LOL,** Dale Sams ** Bronn will be thrilled.

Someone else had it called from a while back: Queen of Nothing and Ashes.

And **Gorsnak **is right, resistance to having a whole building dropped on you or your ship blasted apart seems to be bred into these noble houses. So who knows who could be seen slinking around the background in the finale.

The thing to see I suppose is how Dany reacts if half her remaining army now says, “um… y’know what? We’re heading back North now to mind our own business while you mind yours, was good knowing ya”…

Up until the bell ringing, it was all military targets. Wonder how the scorpions went from super fast firing and deadly to slow loading and useless.
Dany could have certainly just headed for the keep, but she made the mad king look like a paragon of sanity. If she is queen, it is queen of ashes.
I guess we see that dragonfire affects stone, but damn! (and the wildfire certainly didn’t help)
FYI, close captioning says the woman who helped Arya get up was named Nora.

Will Jon, or perhaps Arya, kill Dany? I don’t see how Jon accepts her now, even with his lawful stupidity.

Brian

That was horrific. 90 minutes of that was too much.

I think she just told them what they wanted to hear, Grey Worm did not look like he gave a fuck when Tyrion told him to cancel the attack if they heard the bells.

I think he just sacrificed himself to push Tyrion over the edge, dude like him had to know the way things worked and now Sansa has eliminated both Tyrion and Varys. Varys dead and Tyrion pretty much on her hit list for releasing Jaime. I would say that Littlefinger did his job well.

So, lets say Jon or Arya or whoever kills Dany next episode. The Unsullied + Dothraki are the most powerful force in the Seven Kingdoms (probably?). Do they somehow die too? Fuck off back to Essos?

I knew there was a much less than zero probability of what happened happening, but I really did not think that would happen.

“Hundreds will die!”
“Thousands.”

Dany: “Nahh…you don’t even have to hold my beer. Drogan comes with a drink holder.”

I love how loyal Qyburn actually was, Cersei actually looked sad when he died. And that moment when she allows him to take her hand and lead her away was rather sweet.

Nah. People love terrible people all the time, even when they know they shouldn’t. TBH, I actually preferred it this way than some pat redemption character arc.

I bet there are a lot of moms really regretting naming their kid Khaleesi right about now.

Towards the end there Dany was pretty indiscriminate on who she was burning. Jon had to have his men retreat from the Red Keep because she burned that fucker to the ground and her Dorthraki troops were supposedly in there.

Loved the last bit from Previously, on Game of Thrones where Mad Dany had all those voices in her head. Recaps aren’t usually that creative.

If Jaime and Cersei are dead, as I suspect they are, I’m pissed. Cersei needed killin’ up close and personal. I was hoping that Jaime would snap her slender little neck. But no, he couldn’t move past his twincest.

Loved Cleganebowl. And when the Hound finally told Arya Ok, kid, enough’s enough!

Figured we’d see Yara, but I guess there wasn’t any point.

Did Varys ever send his messages? If so, I guess everybody knows that Jon’s the rightful heir now. Dragon or not, the North and the Real North will never accept Dany.

But I think Arya and Jon will take Daenerys out.

I wonder if the bursts of wildfire we saw are only to remind us about it. Good way to get rid of a bunch of worrisome Dothraki and Unsullied.

Boy that was disappointing, IMO. Great performances, production, and music, as always, but the writing was just not good. In past seasons the giant moments, when something surprising or momentous happened, it usually felt earned. It didn’t feel that way to me for this episode, aside from maybe Cleganebowl. If they needed Dany to go nuts, they could have set it up much better in the moment. There was no trigger - the battle is a slaughter in her favor, and then the bells ring, and then she decides in that moment, with no discernible immediate motivating event, to burn innocents. The Euron Jaime fight was pointless, as were the Arya scenes. Arya had spent seasons and seasons deadening herself to decency and kindness, to kill without qualm, and all of a sudden she decides to be heroic to strangers. And Jaime spends seasons upon seasons showing an evolution towards decency, and he abandons all of that, even his concern for innocent lives, to die with Cersei.

Very disappointing writing, IMO.

You know, if your entire intent in life is to sit on the Iron Throne, burying it under a hundred feet of fused rubble is not the brightest decision. :smack: