When Tommen suggested that Cersei said the Faith would kill Margaery. Think Tommen is cold enough to risk his wife and mother?
What, you don’t think they’re going to do the epic walk of shame?
The walk is filmed already so we know it’s happening.
No, they will. That’s just that much more time carved out of three hours though.
And I’ll say it again, I haven’t read that far yet, but I know the general details…I pictured the Faith Militant as those elite troops you hire in Crusader Kings II to fight heretics. Not former peasants with shovels.
Of course Cersei would say that. But the reality is that even if they went in guns ablazing, I don’t think the Sparrows would kill Margery. She’s a prisoner, not a hostage.
Besides, Tommen surely has soldiers that could sneak in and get the job done. You know, like his uncle father Jaime. Except, maybe, they’d find a time and place to sneak in other than high noon in a wide open area.
Yeah, but Tommen doesn’t know that, he knows what his mother told him.
Having Tywin in the room during the trial would have been fun.
High Sparrow: Seize the queen!
Tywin: Kill them all! Ok, lunch?
Will Jon “die” this Season? They are further than the books now, Jorah and Tyrion have met Dany and she is not yet…
Ah fuck it.
I’d prefer they move things along like they did the very scene you mentioned. Maybe have Jon about to be stabbed just to troll book readers and then the Others warning horns sound…then a louder horn is sounded and the Wall comes crumbling down.
End scene.
Have John mellencamp play us out for the season?
Well, here we go again. Gilly has sex with Sam after he takes a beating to save her from rape. Sex is the woman’s gift to reward a man’s behavior. The usual trope.
In the book it was different. Gilly had sex with Sam because she wanted it and needed intimacy to help comfort the loss of her son.
The books are quite a bit more sophisticated in their depiction of women’s sexuality than the TV show. Yes, women are subservient in the society and their sexuality is in the control of the powerful men around them. But the books understand female sexuality much more than the show does.
Agreed. In the books, the poverty of the common folk, and the general war-torn state of Westeros is on frequent display during the travels of Brienne & Pod and Arya & The Hound. Every now and again they run into groups of Sparrows.
In the show Gilly’s been wanting to pork Samwell for two seasons, this time it happened he did not / was not that inclinded to resist, unlike the other times. So I can’t agree with your assessment.
Who are they gonna roast, if Mance Ryder does not have a wife in show? Shireen?
They damn well better not roast shireen.
Yep.
This episode (5.7) really hammered home the ‘women are helpless and must be rescued by men’ message, what with both the Gilly/Sam and Sansa-begging-Theon scenes.
Along those lines: as a non-book reader (who doesn’t care diddlysquat about spoilers), I was wondering if book-Arya is EVER mentored by a competent female person at any point. In the show, I believe that all of Arya’s mentors (whether intentional or unintentional) have been male. (Unless I’m forgetting something.)
Just curious.
Don’t worry, they wont’ She’d be exsanguinated, I’d think.
“The waif” most recently, as reluctant as Arya is to listen initially. Being a Faceless Man, the person’s real sex is anyone’s guess.
I’m starting to wonder if Jon getting stabbed by the Night’s Watch isn’t going to happen at all. If it does, it certainly won’t be this season - I don’t think there’s time to fit it in if he’s going to spending all that time with the Wildlings again. I suppose he could return and get stabbed real quick, but it seems like a difficult thing to do as a season cliffhanger (does Jon die?) since whether or not his actor is on location for shooting next season is impossible to cover up.
I think they can fit in Kevan no problem. Just have him show up again as Hand of the King next episode now that Cersei has been abducted. Get shot by Varys in the last episode. There won’t be time to show that he was making things better, but, that’s the show for you.
This episode did seem kinda slow, though. Not sure what the point of the Sam/Gilly sex scene (because god knows everyone wants more of those) or the Sand Snakes/Bronn scene was. I suppose the latter was funny enough on its own, but why save Bronn (from the Sand Snakes’ perspective?)
They left out Balon Greyjoy in the list of usurper kings they killed before with King’s Blood! Arrrrgh
Also, as someone who is a pretty strong believer in High Sparrow = Howland Reed, I keep finding reasons to believe it could be the same in the show, but given how much the Reeds have been dropped/unmentioned I just can’t see it happening.
Jon is totally going to bite it. That fucking Olly kid is going to do it. Watch how the camera lingers on him way too much for a show-only character who isn’t showing her tits.
It’ll totally destroy the WHY of it happened, of course. It’ll be Olly mad at Jon for wildling stuff instead of crying crows trying to save the watch in a fucked up way.
But the thing that bugs me about him getting offed is by all our theories both Ghost and Mel need to be around, and he has neither and Mel’s not even at Castle Black.
And chiming in with a big fat no to the Gilly attack stuff. Can these allegedly professional writers not think of anything else to empower the women and show the men as evil or saviors?
Ghost will be there.
“Wildlling stuff” is the same as saving the watch. That’s what they were saving the watch from.
Except that we know Jon was absolutely right, while in the book he was going to have the nightswatch march on winterfell.