Gamers: Is it weird to play XBox online with students?

I just got the XBox 360 and several of my present and former students have been asking for my gamer tag so that we can play games online together. I’m definitely inclined to say no to current students, but what about older kids? Do you think that’s weird and not a good idea, or is it OK? I would think most of the chatting would be about the game, but I’m not familiar enough with how online gaming works to know if it would cross into the territory of inappropriate contact.

What would you think if your kid was playing a game online with his/her teacher? Thanks for any opinion.

If in doubt err on the side of caution; you wouldn’t want students knowing your personal email either, for example.

I would defintely say no to your current students. As for your older students, I think it would be ok if they will never be in any class you teach, unless they are friends with current students and might pass on your gamertag.

If I was a student who played video games with my teacher, i would think he was the coolest teacher ever, however, I would never take him seriously in class.

Not to sound like a stick-in-the-mud…

I used to teach, both college and high school.

Don’t.

They shouldn’t even know you play games.

I know it’s not right/fair, but that’s my advice.

Why shouldnt they even know I play games? If I played soccer after school, should I keep that secret? I really don’t understand this comment.

All I can say is trust me.

I know it sounds wrong and is unfair…but reality is what it is. Look at Daddypant’s post to get an inkling.

I guess a way of saying it is that you need to maintain a ‘professional demeanor’. If you don’t it will come back and bite you. I’ve seen it happen many times.

Unfortunately, to the majority of kids and adults, video games are not professional but soccer is ok.

Even in my post teaching life I experience this. I am 44 years old and I play video games…mainly WWIIOnline and recently Fallout 3. I know that my daughters friends (both male and female) consider this ‘bad’ behavior for an old dude. Thankfully, it’s none of their business and no matter how they feel I can ignore them. Now if I was a teacher, it still is none of their business but it gets around.

Reason #164 why I left teaching. :slight_smile:

I 100% agree that you shouldn’t play games online with your kids, both present and past(unless it’s been 10 years or something).

However, I totally don’t think it is bad to let the kids know you like games. If they ask to play you online, just decline. My kids(I teach 7th Grade) know I like video games and it has not made me seem unprofessional. In fact, I often tell them about how I finish grading things before I play games, just like they should finish their work/assignments before they do.

Let em give you an analogy. I used to be a manager of an athletic shoe store. Most of my empoyees were teenagers and I was in my mid twenties. We hungout often outside of work. Big mistake. During work hours it was really tough for me to get them do anything because “Hey! it’s Daddypants. Sure he’s our boss, but really he is our good friend and he’ll let things slide…”

Yeah, just as another longtime student- I think it’s probably not a good idea to play with your students, current ones for sure, but even later students that’d be kinda weird too.

It just seems like more problems than it’s worth down the road.

One of the main reasons I left teaching…I guess the general, overall reason that describes everything is that teachers are not allowed to be people. See my previous posts on this but there is one where I described where I wasn’t even really allowed to DATE…that combined with the crap pay and crap respect {kids had respect but the overall communities respect for teachers are abysmal…and to have women find out that you are a teacher and so tell you that they don’t date teachers etc…Ok stopping…I’ve ranted about this before and I don’t want to hijack :D}

Back to not allowed to be a human/person if you are a teacher…you can fight it all you want. Many teachers do. Many…thinking back I think over 50% ran into real trouble with it. One guy even ran into some real bad trouble with it…and he was the coolest, most hip, popular teacher in the school. His career was trashed over it and he works as a security guard (not in a school) now because of it.

Yes, Ruby, I’m trying to scare you some. I’ve seen some real misery & damage over the years…and the common theme was not ‘mean’ or ‘distant’ teachers but that they were the ones who were cool/hip/close.

You have your Professional life & you have your personal life. Mix the two with care…especially if you are a teacher.

Today I spoke with the mother of the boy I tutor. He is obsessed with XBox and when he found out I got one, he was very excited to play with me online. I asked his mother what she thought of it, and she said that she doesn’t mind as long as he had all his homework done. I even asked if she thought it was weird, but she really didn’t care.

eh, I dunno. I certainly wouldn’t do it with current students, but former students like from several years ago I don’t see a problem with it.

I’ve personally gone out for drinks with some of my former high school teachers and it was no big deal.

This is what the old folks don’t get Ruby. You should play games with anybody you want to Ruby.

Beyond that, Xbox Live is full of so many shitheads, that playing with people that you know are good people (like say parents knowing their kids play with their teacher) is comforting.

In my tiny hometown, it was damn near impossible to go out for drinks and not meet a former high school teacher. So you buy him/her a beer and talk about those halcyon days of youth. :slight_smile:

I wouldn’t play games online with any of my current students, but they do know I play video games. How do they know? Because they’ve asked me. I’m not going to lie to them over something that trivial.

I can actually get some of the students to talk to me because they want to ask me about what kinds of games I play. I may have to grab a copy of Monster Hunter just because so many of my students are playing it.

I wouldn’t do it with current students because the gaming context is completely different from the classromm context and you’ll be blurring boundaries. On-line gaming can be vulgar, crass and sexualized. That’s a part of the gaming experience, take it or leave it. And you can’t be their teacher while gaming with them. If you ignore or allow that kind of behaviour in the gaming world, you give defacto permission for it in the classroom context. They might not understand that they can’t be the same people they are with you in the gaming world, as they are in the classroom world.

Plus, you’re opening yourself up to all kinds of possible accusations of favoritism, innapropriate contact, etc etc. You may very well get fragged.

Past students, I guess its OK, so long as you’re pretty sure you won’t be teaching them again (as other have said)

What Isamu said. I would never play a game with my students, that’s blurring to many boundaries. But I certainly don’t mind talking to students about a video game. If it gets them to speak up, then I’m all for it.

me too on all counts. I’ve actually played a bit of (the first) Monster Hunter, pretty good game. So long as you have a wii and can talk Smash Bros with them you should be fine :smiley:

In my opinion if you teach younger children, such as elementary school students, its a big gigantic NO, I don’t believe it is right to have any out-of-school relationship with younger students unless its a side effect of being friends with their parents.

But if you teach high school or older students, I say go right ahead.

A teacher has to have the students’ respect if they truly want to have students succeed in their classroom. This is obviously very abstract, and every kid has their own subconscious rules about who they will respect and for different reasons. A lot of the teachers I respected in high school only received that respect because I thought they deserved it. Every teacher has their own way of gaining the majority’s respect. Some were intimidating dicks, some were funny, some would make sure the work they gave you wasn’t overbearing and cut out the fluff, etc. Keep in mind that teachers are always on the clock when it comes to dealing with their students. Do what you want, but remember that your job is to make sure those students succeed in your class.

Some common sense advice that you probably already know:

If any authority or parent says stop, just stop, with all of them.

Don’t curse, or yell when playing these games, its a hard one, but as a teacher you probably have the ability to suppress this kind of stuff.

If they didn’t finish their homework, refuse to play with them, and don’t play with them too late, whether or not there is school the next day.

Daddypants is right, you aren’t their friend, you are their teacher, make sure they know that you will treat them the same whether or not they play games with you.

And keep it casual, do not make any plans to play with them. Never tell them that you might “see them later/catch them online later” if you happen to be online, cool, if not then no biggie.

Don’t worry, no current students. I don’t friend any students from my school on Facebook either, until they get to high school.

The kid I tutor is a former student. Since I have his mother’s permission, I might play with him. I’ll see how it goes.