what the fuck is wrong with some gamers?

The BBQ Pit
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I was playing an fps to blow off some steam, a mod for halflife, its quite amusing… anyways I was in this colloseum map, some guy starts telling me using a keg of explosives, is for “newbies”.
What the fuck is wrong with you? The designers INTENDED for people to use this shit, you know saying “whore” doesn’t make you any better than me, neither does calling someone a newbie, when he is covering the floor with you, I can’t believe there are fucking idiots like you who will argue to the end of time that 1 weapon is for newbies, and all other things take skills to use. It’s pressing a button, nothing more, what the hell kinda skill is involved? Just because you got so pissed off because some “newbie” was bombing you “illegally” doesnt mean you have to cry in the corner and leave while saying some stupid ass remark like “gg newbs”.

They should only teach the skill known as “typing” to those who have common sense.

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I had similar experiences in Counterstrike, where one guy was insisting that using the Steyr AUG was what newbies used. Nevermind that I was cleaning house with it…

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Yeah, that would be known as “Gee you killed me instead of me killing you, so I’m going to try to belittle your method and make you switch weapons so I can kill you because changing my tactics is too hard for my feeble mind.”

Next time, just tell him “Yeah well this n00b just kicked your ass, so you must really suck!” :smiley:

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funny thing was, I was kicking his ass even without the keg, and when i didn’t use it he still said stuff like “I own you whore, you suck” after I killed him, then the usual “I’m just letting you kill me because im so much better than you”

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Welcome to why I don’t play online games.

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Back when I used to play Quake II religiously, I made a point to disprove all the assumptions that people tell you. I used to turn my back on people run, and then house them when they came around the corner. I used to seek out campers and I used to go intentionally after people with the BFG just to prove that a newbie gonna be no more effective with the BFG than he is with any other weapon. I don’t know how many times I popped someone with the railgun before their BFG went off or before it exploded killing me or whatever, or hiding til it went off and popping out before the refresh on the BFG was ready so that that Newbie would get annihilated. I loved fucking with people’s egos over the game. I mean I guess I had a big ego when playing because I was pretty badass, but there were people better than me and I just accepted that, and would intentionally seek them out just because I wanted to kill them. That’s what sportsmanship is about. I mean, I used to talk a lot of trash, but new people are new and as they get better they figure out that some weapons are more elegant than the BFG(insert weapon of Mass Destruction here) and they move toward those because it’s a lot more precise and fun in general. And I used the BFG plenty of times and it has all kinds of tactics that make it wonderful, like it’s amazing ability to clear the room even if you don’t kill anyone. I like playing with newbies because sometimes you can adopt them and play around. There were many times when I would just tell the newbies what to do and I would in turn not kill them, and that would make all the good people have to wade through a mess while I was free to act, and if they attacked me it was fun to watch them pop when retribution was swift. I used to teach newbies how to play, and that made it that much more fun. Made a couple of friends that way. Fuck the whole ego thing with it. It’s not the end of the world if someone is kicking your ass, it makes it that much cooler when you pop them three times in a row.

Hehe, I bet you guys can tell I haven’t been able to play in quite a while.

Erek

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are ya nuts? pve games suck ass, your pc is never a very tough opponent compared to another human. sure some dumbasses like to talk smack they cant back up, but at the end of the mission when I have more points than second third fourth AND fifth COMBINED I would say that says it all.
tribes 1 is still my game of choice, at least until I can get my group to get tribes 2.

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Yeah, it says you need to find a tougher server.

Erek

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Well, I’m not sure if Legomancer is nuts or not. Speaking for myself, though, in my personal list of entertainment options, deliberately spending time in a crowd of (largely) adolescent boys calling each other “bitch”, informing each other that they “suXX0r” (huh??) and otherwise “talking smack” is right down near the bottom. It’s a couple of entries above things like shoving bamboo shoots under my fingernails and suspending myself from hooks sunk into the skin of my back, to be sure, but still right near the bottom.

It’s possible to find servers where that kind of thing doesn’t happen, but when I weigh the opportunity cost of not spending that time versus spending it…well, it’s not a decision that needs to be carefully weighed. Mileages vary, but good lord, when I’ve looked into online gaming from time to time, I am extremely grateful I didn’t get issued someone else’s odometer.

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“Yeah, it says you need to find a tougher server.”

bah not gonna happen on t1, I am disgustingly good at that game…or more precicely at shifter which is a mod for t1. even on servers where I am up against a tribe I usually spank the crap out of their best by a significant margin.
been playing the wolfenstein test alot, thats been some serious fun. only one splash damage weapon and its of a very slow reload timer.

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I’m with the OP. Harken waaaaaaaay back to Duke Nukem 3D deathmatch. I was an expert at using the laser tripmines - in one map I remember very well, all the respawn points were underground in a sewer, and the only weapon down there was a whole line of laser tripmines. All the “kewlie” stuff like the rocket launcher was up above, in the streets. So, the typical procedure was for someone to respawn, head immediately towards a ladder, go up in the street, and get their ass kicked.

Well, I got tired of that. So I became the Empress of the Underworld. I would respawn, grab the laser tripmines, and mine the respawn points. There were no “rules” in the game other than what the map designed put in implicitly, so this was perfectly acceptable in almost everyone’s view. I mean, shit, why else did they put the laser tripmines down there anyhow? This tactic was amazingly successful, and I consistantly would be in the top 2 or 3 in the frag count, often without directly fighting anyone.

You would not believe the Tarzan-like screams of protest as people would respawn and get fragged:

“Goddamn laser tripmines! I wish we’d get rid of them!” Then change maps, or edit the map, dumbass.

“Fucking tripmines! You can’t use those!” Then set it up as a rule for playing, shithead. Believe or not, no one ever proposed it as a rule before play, even though we played the same map for several days.

“That’s cheating!” Cheating? Using a legitimate weapon in a legitimate map, in a legitimate way that anyone else could do?

The funniest time was when one guy who really hated both me (well, at least in the game, because he was so lame even I could out-shoot him) and the laser tripmines respawned three times in a row, and was instantly mine-fragged each time. It went.

(Respawn) BOOM! "Jesus Christ, stupid goddamn - "

(Respawn) BOOM! "Son of a fucking ; "

(Respawn) BOOM! “FUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKK!!!”

Then this man, this grown adult, started punching his fist hard into his desk, got up and screamed to the lunchtime office in the billion-dollar engineering company that he had “Had enough of the fucking fucked up fucking fuck fuck cheating son of stupid fucking bitch fuck…” then actually became incoherrent, and stalked around our cubicles, swearing and randomly punching cube walls, all the time muttering “Motherfucking Una fucking cheating whore fucking fucked up fucking fuck…” Nervous heads of the other games and non-gamers kept poking up above cubicle walls to follow his progress as he stalked around the office. His face was bright red, and the veins stood out visibly on him. He never came near me, but I had my ball-peen hammer ready in case he did.

For the general health and well-being of the office, we decided to not play that map anymore. Sure enough, this master of self control whined the next day that he wanted to play it again, but no one would.

I still laugh evily now remembering it. :smiley:

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waitaminute…

someone was saying the steyr was a newbie weapon? sounds like you’re playing with sniper-phobes…

i like “nitro’s Counterstrike Server”, generally they stick to a higher level. it’s mostly people getting off work rather than 14 year olds.

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On the nose. My time is too valuable to me to spend wading through a crowd of 14-year old boys yalling insults at me or 30 year old men yelling insults at me. I don’t play FPSes much anyway (they give me migraines and aren’t much fun to me in the first place) so I’m not missing out on much.

What it comes down to is I play games for entertainment, for fun. My online experience has been that if you aren’t going to bother memorizing every stat on every weapon and knowing where every pixel of every map is, and constantly honing your key-binding skills and whatnot, don’t bother. And I’m not going to do those things, so I’m not gonna bother. The game is clearly more important to FRAG_L33T_666 so I’ll happily concede it to him.

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I was happy when Counterstrike 1.3 came out, thinking that the addition of voice communication would be great. Little did I know that it would be little more than pre-pubescent boys shouting “BITCH!” at each other.

Thus, my current favorite server is somewhere in Denmark- apparently a more mature set of players frequent that server, and even though I remain blissfully clueless when staticky-Danish comes through my headphones, I don’t have to put up with the kids whining.

I’m more of an autoshotgun fan, too- oh, I was on a streak on Saturday. :slight_smile:

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I was watching a Quake II game once at a convention. One of the players was obviously head-and-shoulders above the rest. He was getting kill after kill with the railgun, and people were beginning to whine, so he switched to the rocket launcher. Still too many kills. Shotgun. Too many kills. He switched to grenades. Not the grenade launcher–the basic hand grenade. Click, twist, beep, beep, throw, kill, run, Click, twist, beep, beep, throw, kill, run, rinse repeat as needed. It was a thing of beauty.

I expected him to pull out the plasma pistol, but even he had to admit that it just didn’t do enough damage no matter how good he was…

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Anthracite, setting laser-trip mines right over respawn points IS pretty cheap. It’s not even a contest at all if you basically frag people before they can start playing. I’m surprised you didn’t have an angry mob heading towards your cubicle for pulling that stuff.

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Generally I agree with the original poster on why playing online games isn’t always fun. I highly recommend staying far, far away from the counterstrike message boards, as they’re full of people saying just that. “This weapon is for newbies, this weapon gets headshots too easilly, blah blah blah”

I’ve been curious what would happen if they just released Counter-Strike 1.4, no changes to the actual code, just version number. I’m sure you’d see the same people complaining about all the new ‘changes’

Though, if you can, try setting up your own group to play online games. You could probably even do it here. If I have the time, I can setup a server for just about any online game out there, running on a T1. Could host between 16 - 32 people. I used to run a clan and the clan vs. clan games were always the most fun, as you’d have clear objectives, playing with friends and generally have a good time without the l337 h@x0rz. If only I could figure out how to get my CS server running.

Oh, and the above was invitation for someone to setup a time to play a game, just send me an e-mail john@gamer-vision.com to see if I have the game and what time it would be. I’ll setup the server with whatever maps and mods are needed.

John

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This is why I play TFC. It has its llamas, but generally in most maps you need teamplay. The lone scout who keeps jumping in front of an SG then bitches at teammates for not taking it out… Doesn’t last long. Meanwhile, in counter-strike, as soon as the game begins it becomes a FFA. So many times do people say “Let’s stick together,” then Person B just runs away without saying anything. Person A is mighty surprised when he’s without backup…

The problem is, this is all a result of making computers user-friendly. In the next patch, Valve should have an IQ test you have to get a score of at least 4 to continue the installation. The only downside to this? Counter-Strike would lose 97 per cent of its players. But, hey, the mod sucks anyway, so I don’t care…

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Heh, the laser pistol doesn’t do enough damage, but when you take some rocket launcher wielding asshole down with it it’s hard not to scream “BITCH”. :slight_smile:

Erek

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Heh, every FPS player I know talks like you. You can’t tell me with all those badasses out there, you guys don’t find each other on the same servers.

I mean, my stats weren’t amazing in Quake II, I was in the upper percentile but I wasn’t near the best, and still I could pick someone out of the air with the railgun or that disk launcher in Tribes.

Erek