Just have the mods put trigger warnings on all threads.
“We have had long board discussions about the inappropriateness of responding to sincere discussions about women’s bodies with jokes.”
Emphasis added. Does this not apply to discussion about men’s bodies?
When I see anyone threadshit with any form of ‘durrr, penis!’ in a thread about men’s bodies or male issues, I’ll report it and I would be confident the mods would warn that sort of crap also. Do you agree that those sorts of comments haven’t been nearly as prevalent as the ‘durrr, boobies’ ones?
And I have to say, kayaker and all the others, it’s gratifying and reassuring to see others who (I think) identify as male agree that sort of thing is generally objectionable and worth calling out and acting against.
I have yet to see a thread where a man posts about some serious issue with his body, only to have a chorus of women shouting “show us your dick!”. :rolleyes:
I’m actually curious if that has ever happened in the history of this board. Or the history of the internet. Or the world.
LOL! Wouldn’t they be surprised.
Yes, that is what I wrote because that is what happened. After a long string of obnoxious posts in threads about women’ bodies, women initiated discussions about how they felt those comments affected their experience on these boards. Men and women, moderators and users joined in the discussion, it was widely posted about, and it is the history I was referring to.
Any men who also feel they too are being mistreated are welcome to report those posts and initiate any discussions they need to have. Any posts that someone feels is disparaging should be reported.
If you are trying to catch me in “reverse sexism” statement or something like that, well, I’m not engaging.
Alternatively, posters could be asked to display basic decency and civility by not making crude, asinine and belittling jokes, which is what this is about.
What? On the internet?!?…
I empathize with the OP. The thread in question came off as pretentious to me.
So cheap shots and hijacking are ok if the OP is pretentious? What do I get to do since I think your user name is pretentious?
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Seriously? :rolleyes:
I fail to see any sort of pretension in it - could you elaborate?
Seriously? That’s what the warning was about? A snarky and predictable comment after a poster herself brought up the topic, unsolicited?
This is a forum where you get thousands of posts long threads about why Islam is bad, filled to the brim with racist tropes galore and nary a squeak from mod staff? Where you can’t get even a single thread on political topic without people piling on to you if you dare go an inch from the boards consensus? Those are fine but the comment posted in the OP is not? Especially in light of the contexts it was made in.
You really need to take a long hard look at your moderation policies.
I don’t disagree with the overall result of the moderation, but it seems fair to point out that we don’t actually know if that thread had anything to do with the OP’s body.
The OP asked, essentially, why they feel the way they do after doing something that made them more attractive, the details of which they will not disclose, except to say their husband was delighted and they don’t know why they aren’t happier about it.
That could mean anything from a haircut or a new shirt all the way up to major reconstructive surgery. It could even be something totally non-physical like adopting a new “more attractive” attitude. There’s no way to know from the information provided. So we also don’t know if this thread even was a sincere discussion of women’s bodies since the OP didn’t want to say what it was actually about.
I’ve never been against modding drive by booby jokes in inappropriate threads just for being jerkish or threadshitting or whatever the case may be. In this case “breast augmentation” was actually probably the number one guess someone would make if forced to guess what the OP was talking about. If, instead of a driveby joke with no substance they had posted “Do you mind if I ask, are we talking about a boob job here or something like a new hairstyle?” IMO that should not have been modded in the context of the thread and the spirit of the ‘boobygate’ rules.
Anyway, each and every possible violation of that rule was already a violation under the don’t be a jerk rule, so to me it always seemed redundant.
I think their moderation policies are fine. Gatopescado’s comment was out of line and he deserved his warning. There had been a 13 page long thread discussing how comments like his would be moderated. The fact that it was predictable doesn’t make any difference. He should have known better.
Agreed. The mods usually come up with very good standards, but in this context they came up with this silly safe space sort of rule that applies to this one particular topic only.
If one didn’t read the sticky at the top of the thread, one would never know that this rule existed. I was against it when it passed and I vote (we are a democracy now, right ) to repeal it.
I’m not trying to catch you in anything. I’m trying to clarify a rule that was explicitly written about “women” as opposed to “people”. Rules should be clearly written, else they cause confusion. That’s all.
So if one doesn’t read the specific rule, one can’t be expected to realize “witty” jokes about boobiez is kinda jerkish?
[Peter Griffin Voice]It insists on itself.[/PGV]
Not reading the rules can’t really be an excuse.
As for the situation–I think it fits the rule. And, even without the rule, I think making a joke about it when she specifically was avoiding saying what she was specifically talking about was is kinda jerkish.
If I talked about something where I mentioned that I something happened where I felt like less of a man, and someone made a joke about me having erectile dysfunction or something, I would find that jerkish, too.
I don’t think Gatso meant to be a jerk, but I get it. And, now that the rule is there, I don’t think it’s right to say you didn’t know.