Gay men unable to form appropriate male friendships

Sometimes I don’t know why I bother reading one of the other message boards I post on. I know that my prescence there is only tolerated by most, not welcome by many and only encourged by a handful. But sometimes someone will post something so vile, I have to restrain myself from reaching through the fucking monitor and strangling the idiot.

On that board someone posted this link to a story by that hypocrite Tim Wilkins of Cross Ministry, one of the deceitful Ex-Gay movement organizations.

In this peice of tripe, entitled “If your friend says, ‘I’m gay’”, he says

Bull-fucking-shit! I’m really too angry to respond coherently, so I just wanted to share my outrage with y’all.

Tim Wilkins, you lyin’ sack of putrid fecal matter, what happened to that commandment against bearing false witness?

Yuck!

“Express grief” when a friend tells you that they’re gay? Oh, THAT’s supportive!

To be fair, some of the advice Wilkins gives is worth considering, at least, but despite the fact that he says he is a “former homosexual” I have to wonder just how well he understands other homosexuals. They don’t want to express grief about their sexuality, they want to explore and celebrate it!

And as far them having “an inability to develop appropriate same-sex friendships,” I have several friends who would differ strongly with that. Wilkins is using the same tired old line of reasoning as “heterosexual men and women can never be ‘just’ friends.” It’s bullshit, and it makes me think he’s the one who can’t develop appropriate friendships. What an ass.

I can see why you’re upset, but I just think it’s amusing. The guy probably doesn’t think that straight people can have appropriate friendships with people of the opposite sex, either.

Sad to say, some people live in caves.

I think it really does depend on your definition of what constitutes “appropriate”. Just because one of the parties in a friendship may feel some level of sexual attraction towards the other doesn’t mean that they still aren’t just friends.

That makes no sense–I think that the key component to being homosexual is making a multitude of same-sex friendships.

Actually, I’m loving this guy’s program:
Express grief with, not anger toward, your friend
"I’m sorry you haven’t been getting any. C’mere…

– Display encouragement, not embarrassment.
“You go, girl!”

Communicate love physically, not just verbally
Umm, physical love!

Cultivate an “open-door policy” versus a "case-closed mentality."
“Open that closet door, and come on out, you big, butch thang!”

Emphasize becoming Christ’s disciple versus "how not to be gay."
Like, John, the BELOVED disciple!

"Tim Wilkins, a former homosexual, is the director of Cross Ministry, a speaking ministry in Wake Forest, N.C. "
Puh-LEEZE, Mary! You know he’s got a stash of “physique magazines” for a little “one-handed devotion.”

“A component of homosexuality is an inability to develop appropriate same-sex friendships.”

BWAAAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAA!! :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: Sorry Home, I know I shouldn’t be laughing while you’re (justly) enraged, but that struck me as just too silly. Gosh, I guess I’ll have to tell my lesbian friends that our friendship must be “inappropriate”! :eek: And I should probably alert my hetero-male friends about our mutual male friends who are gay! Thank heavens I’ve been warned in time! :rolleyes:

Try my translation of the above sentence: “Every time a homosexual friend of my own gender shows friendship or affection for me, I interpret it as a veiled come-on and get the screaming meemies, so obviously it’s the homosexual’s fault for being ‘unable’ to express friendship ‘appropriately’.” Uh-huh, sure, whatever you say, Wilkins old buddy.

Thanks, gobear, that gave me a chuckle that was able to rise in spite of the outrage I’m still feeling.

My friend: CF, I gotta tell you something. I’m gay.
Me: Oh, really? Didn’t see that one coming. Well, hey, that’s great. So, tell me, what kind of guys do you like?
Friend: Real men. I hate these sissy types, they make me want to hit them.
Me: <jokingly> So what you’re saying is, you kinda fancy a nive rugged bloke like me?
Friend: Ewww, dude! Knock it off. That would just be… weird.

Edited to remove a Jewish smilie from my post

laughing OK, with gobear’s interpretation, it’s a much better article! You go, go!

Hey, back off! I bet he’s thoroughly researched this theory by watching, ooooh, a whole 2 episodes of Will & Grace. Can’t fight against that sort of evidence, ya know.

I’m obviously missing some essential components of homosexuality. This concerns me. Think you can get 'em online, like hardware or something? Maybe a download…

Wonderful, I guess all us straight guys are unable to have meaningful friendships with women, then. Dang it all!

Since when are sexual relationships inappropriate? I mean, if it was man-on-woman developing a sexual relationship, that would be OK, right? Sheesh! Makes you want to pitch your computer right off the roof, doesn’t it?

Uh-oh, I’d better tell my roommate and best friend of ten years, whom I’ve known since the seventh grade, that our friendship must be inappropriate. Eff, man, how’m I gonna live with her for the next 11 months of the lease??

Of course, that means that as a bisexual, I can’t be friends with anybody. snif

Unfortunately, “Thou shalt not be ignorant” is not one of the Ten Commandments. Too bad, because then we might have fewer articles like this and more accurate information about homosexuality.

It seems that if you live in a cave you can throw stones, which might explain something about this guy.

One wonders if his status as an allegedly “cured former homosexual” has something to do with his inability to form appropriate friendships. Ya think?

grain of salt. the most mixed up people in this world are the “ex homosexuals.” their guilt is overwelming. every gay man and woman on this board has heard this kind of shit since we were little kids. i feel genuine sadness for the people who believe this and every other stereotype that projected upon us.

i will pray for all the “ex homosexuals” – it must be HELL living that lie!

I have seen the light ! We must witness Brother Tim’s word. Get thee out and tell any lesbians you know they are unable to have female friends, but you will be their friend. Selflessly, you will share your life with them. You will be there for them through the travails of their life, watching over them, and when their friends come, you will not abandon them, and will watch over both of them, through the long dark night, and…

::excuse me, I have to go take a shower…::

Absolutely; every single woman I meet wants to shag me! Oh sure, they won’t admit it, any of them, but I can tell it from the way they pretend nothing is amiss.

Actually, in all seriousness, doesn’t this all just boil down to a sub/semi-conscious fear that homosexuality is somehow infectious?

Eeeeeewww, don’t sit near me, you might make me gay too!! :rolleyes: