Why punish the messenger?
wonders if Wilkins would bounce…
You people are are making light of this, and I’ll admit that it’s probably the appropriate response to this sort of idiocy.
I have to object. Some people just irritate the crap out of me. I have a coworker who is positively repulsed by my gay aquaintance (I’d call him a friend, but I really don’t know him well enough. It’s not like we’d help each other move or anything).
The Cast:
Ex - Me
IDAC - Ignorant Dumb-Assed Coworker
The Drama:
IDAC: Doesn’t he make you nervous?
Ex: No, why?
IDAC: Well, what if he tries something?
Ex: Given that I’m a not-paticularly-attractive staight guy, I don’t think he’d be interested.
IDAC: Well, you never know about those people.
Idiot.
I guess bi people don’t get to have ANY friends, then.
Hm. Say, is it all right if I have inappropriate friendships with men who are also gay? One must make sure, mustn’t one.
These ex-gay boys… they’re so cute, I love them. Like John Paulk, who was discovered in a DC gay bar… he said he was there to use the bathroom.
Unfortunately, nobody thought to ask him for what.
Hmm…maybe he has some point. I have the feeling that it would be really difficult for me to form an appropriate same-sex friendship with Tim Wilkins.
Yep…there are idiots out there.
Case in point. I wish I had this sort of style and eloquence.
Mangetout:
Homer: Did he give you Gay?! Did he?!
Mangetout: not even. Have you ever noticed that all of these people who claim to be repulsed by homosexuality are terrified that it’s somehow catching?
Gee, for something so disgusting, it must really be …attractive. And enticing. They must struggle to keep from succumbing to the siren’s call of homosexuality. They must be staunch, true, manly, ahhhh, virile men…
AAAAAAAAAGH!
(says twenty Hail Marys, abruptly stops and gets the pun)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHHHH!
(throws self from window, lands on top of Rupert Everett)
Why me? Why me? Why me?!!
LOL
[James T Kirk]<gasp>…Must…resist…turning…gay[/JTK]
Wow, gays and straight men can’t have a strong friendship… I guess I better call my best friends and let them know.
More likely insecure straight men, particularly of the brainwashed fundie-pseudo-Christain variety, have a total inability to maintain a relationship with anyone who doesn’t conform to their narrow, bigotted and evil worldview. At least, in my experience.
Funny, in the last nine months, the only person whose had any issues with me coming out was my (former) best friend, who since a child has been a member of the Southern Baptist Brainwashing Convention, Todd. Nate and Mitch, who’ve known me at least as long as Todd has, and are part of what we used to call “The Gang?” No problems… Nate’s wife had told him years ago that I was gay (apparently she could just tell), and he’d been waiting all this time for me to fess up… Mitch can’t be bothered to care about much of anything that’s not a computer game. Things proceed pretty much as they always have, except now there’s one more thing to tease me about.
Even people who I could understand being a bit wierded out, like Brett, my former college roommate, had no perceptible reaction. Or people I’d just gotten to know a few months beforehand, when I went back to college (for real this time, amazing how much actually going to class helps). No problems there.
But Todd, my best friend from the past two years? From talking every other day to he-hasn’t-returned-more-than-five-phone-calls-since-January. From getting together every other weekend to I’ve-seen-him-twice-in-the-last-six-months (and then, only with the Gang). And then he skips my “Kirk’s Back From Oxford University” party last weekend, without calling (still hasn’t called to apologize) after saying he’d be there (I’d even wrapped his present, even though I knew deep down he wouldn’t come).
What a great fucking pal. Well, I’ve tried. After he pulled a seven-straight-weeks-of-silent-treatment, not only to me, but to all our mutual friends as well, after I came out, I probably shouldn’t have bothered. To hell with him. I’m done crying over friends who weren’t worth the effort in the first place. I’ll never call him again, and until he crawls across glass to apologize, he’s not welcome in my house. And he owes me like $20, too. I should charge him interest, and find a way to report him to a credit agency.
Gay men have problems forming friendships with heterosexuals? No. Though heterosexuals may have a problem, if they’re brainwashed fundie bigots.
I can see that people who believe it their business to control what other people do with their hearts, minds and genitals could well have trouble with the concept of ‘normal relatioonhips’.
Although personally, I don’t think there’s any such thing as a normal relatiooooonship…
Ahh, 'Brew. I am sorry that Wilkins’ evil ramblings have gotten to you. I for one had to cease posting on Certain Other Message Boards because I could not restrain myself from flaming the idiots who agree with crap like that. And it is better to go away quietly than break the rules and get “view onlied”. My advice (in case you were interested 
) is to take a break from exposing yourself to hate like that. Spend more time at home, where you can think critically without being called a chi-yuld uv da debbil, and where we don’t care whose genitals interest yours or what stance you have on “OSAS”.
Mars: Hey!! First you go and leave, then Jayjay got adequately disgusted to voluntarily move to view only, now you’re advising Homebrew to?!?! Who’s gonna stand by me on these issues (other than Mouse Jester, of course)?
Kirkland1244, I’m over here waving jarbabyj’s “We’re not all like that” banner. I am sorry to hear of the pain you have suffered in your friendship with Todd, but as a semi-brainwashed Southern Baptist fundie myself, I have to say that that behavior is not at all in line with the love of Jesus, whom Southern Baptists follow. I have found it deeply painful to even read of such behavior, here and unfortunately in many other situations also, by those who claim to be Christian.
I was looking in that article for something Mr. Wilkins might have said that might be loving. Futile search. 
(If anyone wants to read more along the same lines, here’s another article, unfortunately on the same website: Homosexuals, despite the assertions, more likely to commit sexual abuse
Poly: I think that leaves only the good doctor and “cruise missull”.
My point being, sometimes you gotta go
[sub] yes, i know its taken “out of context”. hee hee[/sub]
Poly - I’m there, I just never have much to say.
Lotsa stuff over there gives me a headache.
I still read regularly, but I don’t post over there as much as I have in the past. I’m not sure how much good it does.
I know most of the articles and such posted over there are for “information purposes”, but it always goes the same way. An article is posted, the same few posters shout it down, and it either dies off or a discussion ensues about some side issue. As much as I like to think that my contributions there help educate people about liberal politics, or medicine, or science, or homosexuality issues, I just don’t think it happens.
Dr. J
Actually, despite my view-only status, I haven’t even opened that site for at least two months. Apparently it hasn’t gotten any better in my absence. Makes me wonder if all evangelical message boards are susceptible to the LBMB Syndrome…
When I read Tim Wilkins was from North Carolina, I immediately thought of Polycarp. What is it that makes homosexuality such a major issue for Christians in that corner of the world ?