Basically any scene in any of the Jackass movies. Although again, I’m not sure we can call those “non-gay films”, without offending gays. And films.
Not seen it, but I have read on more than one occasion that “Con Air” is one of the most unintentionally homoerotic films one can see.
In at least one scene in the original Jackass, you can hear Steve-O (I think) call Knoxville “Daddy” while Knoxville shocks the heck out of him. Just sayin’.
You know, it has only just now occurred to me that Hans Conried in The 5000 Fingers of Dr. T is the inspiration for Sideshow Bob of The Simpsons! Both characters’ last name is Terwilliger. They both have interesting hair. Their speaking styles are similar, and their nemesises are both little boys named Bart!
Ay caramba!
My post wasn’t queer, eh…clear to you. I was saying that the scene cited in the original post didn’t strike me as gay, whereas “Do-Me-Doe Duds” does.
It’s packed with tough guys from a prison; but if there is any UST even hinted at between any two characters of any respective sexes, I missed it.
While not nearly as gay as some of these other films, Kurt Russell and Billy Bob Thornton’s showdown in Tombstone always struck me as one of the gayer arguments one could have. “Skin that smokewagon and see what happens” in particular makes my inner 7-year old giggle in delight.
This looks like a good place to link to the Very Secret Diaries of Gandalf and Company. 
You guys are really nailing the one-liners in this thread!
Hoo boy. I have a vague recollection of reading or seeing an interview with Stan Lee or someone like that who basically said that they absolutely lived in “Plausible Deniability” when they were writing comics - if something seems dirty, it was probably meant that way.
I can’t claim original credit for the 300 joke I posted.
Except WRT Wonder Woman, where they don’t even seem to have made the deniability effort. I think the only reason William Moulton Marston got away with it is that not enough Americans in the 1940s had even heard of what was in play here.
Are you claiming there’s some subtext in Wonder Woman? I’m sorry, if you insist on seeing something in a perfectly innocent, strapless-halter-and-boots-wearing woman explaining to her defeated foes that they need to understand the joy of ‘submitting to a loving authority,’ and losing her powers when she’s tied up (a lot), that really says more about you than her.
Not that a lot of the subtext in comics is intentional (and Chris Clarmont gave William Moulton Maston a run for his money in the ‘hide it in plain sight’ area) there’s enough of a history of people imagining all kinds of crazy implications that you can’t always assume they meant it.
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If I was looking for a personal hero, I could do far worse than William Moulton Marston. Scientist*, professor, comic book writer, amazing wife, (presumably amazing) submissive girlfriend, the enormous balls required to write blatant bondage-themed comics in the 40s . . . well done, my friend. Well done.
*Psychology is sort of a science.
I’m not familiar with that. Could you provide some examples?
Marston was a bondage freak. In the early WW, somebody gets tied up or somehow restrained every ish. Often WW herself. I recall one story I saw in reprint. where WW and several of her companions did a public demonstration of medieval bondage gear at a museum, some sort of fundraiser. Yes, there’s a crime-plot, there’s a woman administrator who is insanely jealous of women who make her feel inferior; when WW volunteers for a Houdinesque escape-demo, her eyes and mouth are covered with a leather hood called a “brank” and then WW has her hands shackled behind her back and is immersed in a glass tank of water – all according to plan, but the murderess has secretly wrapped WW’s unbreakable golden lasso around her chains. To get out she has to chew through the brank and use her teeth to untie the lasso.
In another, the god Mars, who lives on the planet Mars, is manipulating WWII for his own ends. (I’m not clear what they were – maybe just to keep it going.) Mars says to one of his retinue, “You’re a woman! Who do women like better, Germans or Italians?” She answers, “Oh, Italians, sir! Girls love dark men with titles!” Mars whispers in Mussolini’s ear and gets him to send “Your handsomest nobleman and your strongest brute!” to America to trap WW. The strongman challenges her to a contest, but that’s just to allow Count Crafti (impersonating a Spanish Don) to charm his way close enough to snap handcuffs on her. Surprisingly, this actually works. WW thinks, in horror: “When an Amazon allows a man to put on her dominance bracelets, Aphrodite takes away her powers!” She has only a natural woman’s strength now. Later, when one of her girl-crew (captured with her) asks her why she doesn’t break the manacles, WW says, “I’m being . . . er . . . punished for stupidity.” Forget how she gets out of it.
A few older examples. I’m not sure which he wrote, but they’re thematically similar.
“If girls want to be slaves, there’s no harm in that. The bad thing for them is submitting to a master or to an evil mistress like Paula!” C’mon. That’s sexist!
And, of course, “The only real happiness for anyone is to be found in obedience to loving authority.”
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The non-Wonder Woman bits of superdickery.com are fairly awesome too, but with less bondage.
I just did a quick google for “Con Air Homoerotic” and a lot does come up. Take this for example:
Yeah, but what about this?
You’re right, I should have included that one. As the third link, maybe. Even by Wonder Woman standards, that one’s pretty weird. Aside from the fact she’s being spanked by a giant, matronly baby in front of a crowd of other babies, which would be weird enough, her top is drawn with a level of distortion that’s almost Liefeldian.
It’s also clearly glued on, but that’s not germane.
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In Soviet Russia baby–you know what? I’m not doing it.
Almost anything starring Bugs Bunny.
this is what I came on to post…
Men at work, in and of itself, is “homoerotic” now?
I’m not sure I want to live on this planet any longer.
This is as puzzling to me as the “homoerotic” label flung at The Passion of the Christ. Come on, two guys kissing is homoerotic. What’s homoerotic about a guy getting beaten up and flogged with barbed whips?