If there’s one thing we gays know how to do properly it’s get shit faced.
They haven’t responded to my email requesting membership (that’s their sign-up method). Seems they don’t want me. 
Or they’re just really disorganised.
No, it isn’t (although I have no problem with AK using it; I was just surprised.)
Based on how I am feeling at the moment, I will change my response to a yes. I just left my favorite bar and may not return because I’m sick of it being full of women and the straight guys that follow them. The entire feel is changing and I really don’t like it.
Ooh yes, not good. Quite often lesbian bars/clubs here (UK) specify ‘women and their male guests only’ to avoid gangs of straight people coming independently to ogle. That way, at least the straight people there are respectful. They also have a ‘no men’ policy when dancers are performing, for obvious reasons.
Are they generally talking to astronauts and and ground hogs when you see them?
Oh dear, doesn’t sound good. Details?
I always thought Lincoln was hot. I’ve obviously gone to the wrong bars.
That raises an interesting (to me) question. Are “gay bars” generally designed/intended to be such, or do they just sort of become gays bars because of the clientele that frequents them? In the case of your gay bar, maybe it’s just not a gay bar anymore because of who now frequents it?
Maybe I’m way off base, but if I were to open a bar and not discriminate, I’d have no say over whether it were a gay bar or not. It would be what it were.
I can’t speak to other locales but this particular bar has been owned, operated, and marketed as a “Gay Bar” for 30 years.
As far as how a gay bar comes to be, the ones I know of are typically opened by someone in the LGBT community and cater expressly to LGBT people. They are marketed in gay media and are designed to appeal to a certain market segment. For example, The Eagle is set up with a play area, a small neighborhood lesbian bar will, without fail, have a pool table.
This topic reminds me a bit of the argument about whether or not women customers are really welcome in strip clubs (women stripping). After dealing with group after group of drunken bachelorettes or girls who want to seem “cool” to their guy friends, a lot of strippers really dislike having too many women patrons in the club. Of course, there are are exceptions, but overall they make us feel like animals in the zoo, and are either rude or just clueless.
It’s a nice fantasy to go back to the good 'ole days when everyone stayed in their respective hangouts without crossing over too much. And strip clubs were certainly more fun when they were still considered part of some kind of seedy underworld. I can’t speak to what gay bars used to be like, but yeah, sometimes I’d like to go back to a time before the doors opened for everyone and some of the secretive mystery remained.
It’s a number of things, some going well beyond the scope of this thread. I asked a friend Saturday night, “when did this turn into a bar for women and children?”. So yes, they’re all 21 and up but there’s plenty of places on Santa Monica blvd for them. Part of it is that the place is well known for very strong, cheap drinks so most of the “outsiders” are gone by midnight because they drink there and then go to the trendy places but by then I’m too annoyed to enjoy myself.
I’ll stop whining now. 