Tegan and Sara speaking out for LGTBQ2S+ rights at the Juno awards last night - https://youtu.be/Go4G1LZWXI0?si=anL_qC5krtzyPP2t .
CBC news article at this link - Safe but slow Junos given life by Tegan and Sara statement, Talk and Charlotte Cardin wins | CBC News
I used to work with a guy whose Orthodox Jewish parents did exactly this. And they never spoke with him again.
That being said, there are lots of Jewish groups that are more tolerant. For instance, the Jewish Theological Seminary in NYC (one of the major centers of Conservative Jewish teaching, where a lot of conservative Jewish rabbis and cantors are trained) had an issue many years ago when a group of gay students formed a support group. “Gay relations are explictly prohibited in the Torah”, said those who opposed it. The story that I head was that the head of the school asked if homosexual sex was taking place at these meetings. “No”, said the organizers. “Would they object to having a chaperone in the room during the meetings?” “No, they would not.” So the seminary gave an official “go ahead” to the group.
More recently, they have accepted openly gay students to study to be clergy
Admission of LGBT students[edit]
Since March 2007, JTS has accepted openly gay, lesbian, and bisexual students into their rabbinical and cantorial programs (the seminary’s other three schools upheld such non-discrimination policies prior to this date). A survey conducted prior to the decision indicated that 58% of the rabbinical student body supported this change.[[48]]
(Jewish Theological Seminary of America - Wikipedia) The school issued a press release[49] announcing the new admission policy, without taking a stance on same-sex unions. JTS marked the first anniversary of the change with a special program. Some students who opposed the change in admission policy said they felt excluded from the day’s program because it did not sufficiently recognize the pluralism in the student body. In April 2011, JTS held a Yom Iyyun, or day of learning, about LGBTQ issues, and their intersection with Judaism. Joy Ladin, a transgender woman who teaches English at Yeshiva University, gave a talk about her life. Other programs included creating welcoming communities, and inclusive prayer, among others. It was sponsored in part by Keshet, a Jewish LGBTQ social action group.
And even more recently, JTS has explicitly supported transgender rights:
Wow! Go JTS!
Yep. That happened when my parents married. Dad’s family held a funeral for dad.
Although in that case some of the relatives continued to speak to Dad and associate with us somewhat. Others entirely shunned us.
This has a lot to do with why I hang out with Reform and Conservative Jews more than the Orthodox.
I’ve used “they” for myself since I started using the internet in the early 1990s. Not because I don’t identify with a binary gender, but because it’s none of your business how I identify. My genitals are private. I don’t object to other pronouns, especially because it’s difficult for me to remember others’ pronouns. Please don’t be offended if I use “they” for anyone else.
When I was in high school, I realized that gender is normative bullshit. Stuff like “boys wear shorts; girls wear skirts” is fundamentally bigoted. Many people are full of it and cannot see beyond their limited horizons. I chose and choose to be who I am how I am. It’s a factor in why I didn’t marry another American, but a Korean escaping the normative bullshit of their former country. We reject orthodoxy together.
My perspective is that the so-called trendiness of gender diversity is not really about the people on the trans spectrum, but about the shittiness of our cultures’ gender poles. A person who doesn’t like certain clothes, accessories, hair, and make-up isn’t less feminine than a person who does. Instead, they know (perhaps subconsciously) the stupidity of clothes, accessories, hair, and make-up as being a part of gender.
Let me plug my denomination:
Reconciling Ministries Network
Love is Love.
Transgender Day of Visibility, and it’s Easter Sunday. I wore my Pride Flag bow tie to church this morning. Some Christians have their knickers in a twist about it, others are using it as a chance to say ‘We celebrate all transformations!’.
Anyway, hoping everyone is having a good day today!
Some in the USA are lambasting Biden for recognizing it specifically on Easter; perhaps under the delusion that Biden gets to choose what day the Day of Visibility is.
I will celebrate the fact that Biden did so anyway. And also the fact that you’ve found one of the good churches.
I love seeing this. The UMC church where I go is a Reconciling congregation, and I wrote our church’s new slogan, to reflect the fact that we’re welcome to all.
For those of you who are transgender, non-binary, gender diverse, or any combination thereof, continue rocking it with your bad selves.
If this were Facebook, I would be ‘liking’ and ‘loving’ all of these posts!! <3
Much happier to be here, though!
One of my friends told me her AMAB nb child told her they want to be addressed as she now. Her basic response ‘okay, I love you. you will always be me baby’. I told her she done the right thing.
Jesus Christ. I’ve got to rant about something and I feel this is the best place for this.
I’m a white heterosexual guy, but, what the hell is wrong with us? Maybe it’s just that I’ve been online too much, but the discourse these days is really bothering me, and I realize that I’m saying that with privilege. I’ve been misogynistic and stupid in the past, and I’m regretful for things I’ve said and felt in the past. I’m always learning.
It’s just the way some men treat women and people in the LGBTQIA+ seems like it’s on a whole new level. Maybe I’m just noticing more, but some of the things these dudes outright say are horrendous. It’s awful. It’s so beyond the pale. I feel awful about it, and like I said, I’m not even being targeted. I do speak up in real life, if I see it. I’ve seen it online, mostly. Please stay safe.
My son posted Sunday that as he was walking on the street, someone driving by roled down their window and shouted “what gender are you?” as the car whipped on by. My son has a full beard, looks generally masculine, and sometimes wears a skirt. I’m assuming he was wearing a skirt when this happened, but didn’t ask.
His ex (who he is on good terms with, and who is non-binary) replied to the post, “happy transgender day of visibility?”
There are weird random assholes in the world.
I think that’s it. According to my gay friends, it’s always been like this. But with social media, and a political movement that normalizes hate, those of us who have privilege are now seeing what our LGBTQ companions have been going through for decades.
I just noticed this thread and just wanted to say thanks for doing it. Years ago I got in the habit of shying away from discussions of transgender here on the Dope because of the open transphobia. Fortunately that has improved a lot in recent years. There are now only a very few offenders active around here. Thanks, Dopers!
Hi Johanna. I wish I could in some meaningful sense say “I’ve got your back”. I’ve got the sense of alignment and confidence of mutual supportive inclinations, but a scary sense of not having any social clout.
Thanks, A. Until around ten? years ago, it could get pretty toxic toward trans people around here. Remember Una Persson, who provided great arguments in those days. She stopped posting here years ago. Her health has not been great recently. I hope she’ll be well. She fought in the thick of arguments to defend trans people. I couldn’t deal with too much transphobic toxicity. I would PM Una and Miller and Doc Cathode, and they would go to bat for me. Poor Una, it wore her out. I’m still here because I paced myself to not take on more than I could bear; I’m thankful we could call on Miller and Doc Cathode to help as allies.
I don’t think a lot of you know just how bad it was around 20 years ago. There were several transphobes conspiring off-board to antagonize trans Dopers into leaving. I know this because our late lamented Tuba Diva, Jenny, had been monitoring this and tipped me off to it.
It’s so much better nowadays within the confines of our little message boards. 
The few transphobic jerks who still post here are handily taken care of by our allies. I just want to say thanks to all allies here.
There still are. But they get shut down a lot harder these days.
Thank you very much for calling me an ally. I like to think of myself as one. But it is an honor that must be given by others.
I miss @Una_Persson and @eve who was driven away around the same time. Eve had an encyclopedic knowledge of early Hollywood and was one of my favourite posters but the bastards wore her down.