Naaah.
FYAETLLY:
Fuck You And Everyone That Looks Like You.
Or maybe just FOASADT:
Fuck Off And Smoke A Dog Turd.
Or, if I’m feeling really mean - ESALTTI
Eat Shit And Live To Taste It.
And no, I don’t know whether or not it actually is salty.
Yeah, that’s about right.
“Eat shit and die” was always the expression in the South, as I recall it. Which makes sense, since we are more polite.
Most of what people are seeing as new rules are not new rules. They are just clarifications of rules already in place. The first rule was and still is “Don’t be a jerk.” Insulting a mod when she’s doing moderation duty is pretty clearly being a jerk. Sapo just wanted to see how close to the line he could skate, and found out that he was over the line when he thought he was right on it.
When we warn/suspend/ban someone, first we take a look at the offense. Then we consider whether or not this is a pattern of behavior. Does the poster in question have a habit of insulting or aggravating another poster or group of people on the SDMB? That calls for a more severe action if he does have this habit.
In general, my advice to all posters would be that if you think you’re getting pretty close to the line, you’d better take a couple of steps back. The Pit is NOT, and never has been intended to be, a place to see just how low you can go. This ain’t limbo, it ain’t mud wrestling, you are not in a contest to see who can be the lowest and dirtiest. There are lots of unmoderated places on the internet. This place is moderated. If you think it’s a bad idea, I invite you to browse some unmoderated places, and then some other general interest message boards.
That’s what it ain’t, but what IS it?
Serious question, Lynn. If in resopnse to your post just now, I were to post:
(1) I disagree,
(2) That sucks,
(3) Oh go fuck off, or
(4) FOAD,
which, if any, would be stepping over line, given that I tend not to get close to the line in the first place?
3 and 4 would be stepping over the line. Even though I didn’t specify that I was speaking as part of the moderating staff, I think that it’s pretty obvious that I was. And in this post, again, I’m speaking as a mod. I’m attempting to make the rules a bit clearer, and explain the reasoning behind them. I won’t be happy about 1 or 2. I’d prefer that everyone be happy with rules, however, I don’t expect that to EVER happen. Some people don’t want any rules, and some folks would rather have different rules. My job is to make and enforce rules that the ChiReader and CL want. 2 is just expressing your disappointment in the rules, or my interpretation of them. I don’t like reading it, but I’ll try to take it into consideration, especially during the next mod discussion about rules. Telling anyone to go fuck off is at the very least rude. If you tell it to the wrong authority figure, it can get you killed. On the SDMB, the most it can do is get you banned. Usually it will just get you warned. FOAD is something that I don’t think you in particular would ever say. I might be wrong about this. FOAD is even ruder than “fuck off”, IMO.
What I don’t get is why FOAD is worse than “go to Haiti and get AIDS”.
It’s a place to vent, but not a place to go over the line.
It’s actually German for fuck off and the.
Wait…
“Fuck off” is now over the line in the Pit? Or just to a mod while modding? Because I agree that messing with people who are trying to work is always wrong.
Please, tell me more about this. What are you thinking of when you say that telling an authority figure to fuck off can get you killed?
Lynn, thanks for clarification - a bit more, please? As I stated in my OP, my gripe wasn’t w/the disciplinary action per se, but that it was stated as “death threats are not allowed”, and the implication was “FOAD” was a death threat.
I actually get, understand and agree that when a mod is enforcing the rules that they should not have to deal w/some one being an asshole about it (“fuck off” would be such a thing, as would, of course “fuck off and die” -not that I"m saying either of those two to you, you understand).
In your recent example, it seems that you’re saying (and I would agree w/this) that saying “Fuck off” to the mod in response to their official moderation post would be a problem. But “Fuck off” to another poster ? and FOAD as a general response?
Again - wrt the actual event, had no problem w/the action taken, but the rationale (IE under the ‘death threat’ corallary)
thanks.
Thanks for the clarification, Lynn.
Needless to say, I am concerned that rudeness will be sanctioned in the pit, and that there are two standards based on whether the recipient of the little balls of deficate derision is a common poster or a mod. I think that the value of the pit is that it is a place where one can let loose, including being rude to each other.
That being said, I do appreciate your having clarified the matter. Thanks, and best wishes.
Fuck off, FOAD are pretty strong insults. They are not to be used lightly. And if you think they might be over the line in a particular case, then they probably are.
Abuse of moderation staff while they’re moderating is not allowed. It’s not that we can’t take it, I’ve been called worse and I survived. I don’t think that ANY of the moderating staff are delicate flowers who have to have a hothouse environment. The point is, posters should not abuse the staff while the staff are doing their duties. In the past, we haven’t been warning people about this. Now we are. I don’t think that this is unreasonable, because in any place of business, abuse of the workers is not allowed, and will generally get an abusive patron thrown out.
I guess I’ll never again be able to say to you “Glad you’re alive, now fuck off.” So instead, have a great steamy tounge filled kiss. 
I had just got done reading that thread about the Saudi woman who was sentenced to jail and lashing. I think that telling a member of the Saudi police to “Fuck off” (or whatever the local equivalent would be) would be asking to be killed. I was also thinking of the bad old days in the American South, when the sheriff was pretty much a law unto himself. I am also a child of the 60s, and I remember when calling a cop a pig was pretty much an invitation for that cop and his buddies to administer some police brutality.
Yes, you are more tolerant than Saudi police.
On a chaise longue?
You may have been addressing Lynn and her Pit Rules, but you came afoul of another female Admin. and her Law. 
Huh. So what are we, Southern or Muslim?
Using this as a yardstick, religious debate should be off limits. After all, if you push it too far with the wrong people in Saudi Arabia or the Deep South, you could get killed too.
Also, we shouldn’t criticize the military or the government ever. Would you criticize the military in the Deep South? That could quite possibly result to police brutality. And criticizing the Saudi Arabian government will land you in jail. Have you ever been in a jail in SA? Neither have I, but from what I hear, it sucks. Not that you’d want to say so in Saudi Arabia.
Maybe I shouldn’t call this a yardstick. There’s nothing actually retarded about a real yardstick.
Granted, anbout the authority figure, in a place like Saudi. But the other example is indefensible as an argument against using strong language - spurious possibilities of murderous behavior (by authority figures, or otherwise), even when in the example of the use of serioulsy provacative language, does not a good defense of policy make. I’m disapointed that you trotted that one out.