Genetic Freedom

I’m just preparing you all for the inevitable… to lessen the shock when it becomes mainstream. While it’s certainly possible that the media matrix can keep the cap on genetic freedom for quite while longer, that wall will be taken down eventually.

OK, just so I understand…no law against the property owner overriding the genetic pool at any time for any reason?

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[QUOTE=BoardMother]
Castaway, you are wasting your time.**

Educating ignorance is not a waste of time. Whoever told you otherwise was lying - even if you told yourself. Every little meme you can write into another’s brain in a positive emotional way (that being the key) is a plus. So do it. Emotions are everything. If you incite negative emotions from people you will fail every single time.
Westeren society is geared against the white race

Ummm, well Western Society was originally all about expanding the “white race.” It has recently changed for a variety of easily understood reasons, sure.
and we are slowly begining to realise the mistakes we have made

There were no conscious mistakes made… White people are easily programmed by Christian ideology and in an attempt to spread that ideology to the world, white people invite everybody else in - Sure that’s an extreme over simplification, but I enjoyed thinking and saying it briefly.

More specifically it’s fabian gradualism via the media matrix that has slowly transformed the world. In some ways that transformation is good… anything that deprograms religious zelots (Genetics religion excluded of course) is a good thing so I’m not completely opposed to the new Media Matrix. There is still that old Media Matrix that can’t seem to end - the ancient 3 religions judaism, Christianity, Islam.

More and more people are becoming aware of the media deception.

Don’t be fooled my young padowan - “the people” are merely being divided into two distinct groups: Those who perceive FoxNews as the deceivers, and those who perceive the other “liberal” media outlets as the deceivers. A Perfect lobotomy - if people could only identify the surgeon :slight_smile: The only answer here is Genetic Freedom, plain and simple.
It’s only a matter of time.

Wishful thinking. You either pound the pavement with Genetic Freedom (first understand it) or you lose.

No, you misunderstood (and I wrote it in a way that was easily misunderstood). The other people in the Genetic Group would have to agree to agree to let the property owner sell to whomever. The property owner cannot just arbitrarily sell to anybody he wishes. All new entries into the community have to be agreed upon by the community - that is genetic freedom for that community. This way, economics does not drive the “Genetic Flow” of the human race but rather individual decisions drive it. Owners of land would most often not want to sell to people the group does not accept so the argument you posed is not realistic anyway. Economic factors, sure, are the common condition under which somebody might want to sell to whomever has the money… but again, his greed does not outweight the right of all the others in the group to have genetic freedom.

Hey, I know we currently live in a world ruled by money, but we’re about to enter an age where genetics are better understood and Genetic Freedom is going to be a very fundamental part of that. Economic realities are going to have to shift and change accordingly.

As I said, if that property owner no longer agreed with their community, he has those three choices I mentioned.

This is really easy to implement and we could do it tomorrow all across America!

So this is what The Energizer Bunny on coke looks like.

Verrry Interrresting…

OK, thanks castaway! No further questions.

Some rewrites thanks to you all…
First we are individuals, then we are groups of individuals, then groups of groups and so on. Groups are nothing more than the sum of thousands of individual decisions. All powerful human forces upon our planet today are groups of people, not individuals. Individuals that are powerful are only so because a group lifts them up to power. So group power is how the world is organized. Groups organize themselves around governments, economics, ideas, ideologies and philosophies. All life on the planet is genetics, and since groups are how the human world is organized, group freedom based on genetics is a fundamental human right for intelligent genetic life. More generally, both individual and group freedom based on genetics is a fundamental human right.

No problem. This is why we must amend the amendments and make the world’s laws safe for genetic freedom.

All people, even you, will eventually be protected by fundamental laws of Genetic Freedom. It’s a beautiful thing!

Another core concept from Genetic Freedom that you all simply avoided.
This paragraph explains phenotypic extinction. As an example, let’s say that there are three phenotypic double alleles unique to an ethnic group which, when combined, give them a specific positive aggregate ability or trait (of any kind not excluding the brain) that other ethnic groups do not have. Most members of this ethnic group have all three double alleles at the same time and have the aggregate trait. If all members of this ethnic group mate with another ethnic group that has none of those alleles, what then is the probability of seeing all three of those phenotypes together at the same time within a child of the future? Close to zero! The more ethno-specific phenotypes we add to this scenario, the more this probability approaches zero. In the real world with hundreds of ethno-specific aggregate phenotypes and mutations the probability of producing a human with the original phenotypes, under this scenario, is virtually zero. Thusly, the aggregate phenotypes of that original ethnic group have gone extinct. This provides some solid, scientific basis for how genetic freedom for groups is very healthy for the human race as a whole as it maintains unique aggregate phenotypes within the overall population. Living life with genetic freedom for both individuals and groups makes life more interesting and enjoyable doesn’t it? Isn’t that the spirit of the Olympics? It certainly used to be. It is fun to think about genetics and apply those thoughts to events in life. It is the spirit of diversity and freedom upon our planet! - not just for individuals, but also for groups of individuals!

Nope…the property owner cannot just arbitrarily sell to anybody he wishes is a showstopper for me! :frowning:

So easy you couldn’t even answer it. I’m also interested to see how you jumped to your conclusion, considering that I do believe certain genetic traits have an influence on cultural development (as do resource availability, geography, etc), but whatever.

Hypothetical:
2 small islands are inhabited by two different groups. The islands are reasonably similar in resources, geography, latitude, and population. The group inhabiting Island A has light olive skin, the group inhabiting Island B has very dark skin. The two groups are aware of each other, but don’t interact. Please offer your thoughts as to any differences in culture that can be tied reasonably to the difference in skin color.
For example, Island A develops a religion based on sun worship and Island B on moon worship. This is because…

I can’t help myself…So Castaway let’s say Mr. Smith is about to default on his mortgage…according to you he can’t sell his home to whomever he can and avoid a life altering event; for the “good” of the community, he has to take one for the team so to speak and end up broke and homeless.

Ok, the bank forecloses and the home is now the property of a large corporation…do you have laws in place to prevent The Corporation from recouping their investment or are they too subject to Genetic FreedomTM and must either write off the property or wait until some party acceptable to the groupTM decides to purchase it? How many mortgages do you see going to your homeland once enough leading institutions get burned? Why would they invest in your homeland, when 20 miles away they can sell and buy to anyone who has the ability to pay?

How do you expect businesses to survive or invest in your homeland, when any decision must be “committee” approved and can be shouted down, even if it goes against the financial well-being of the community?

Are you a socialist or perhaps more of a communist? I only ask because your whole agenda goes against free enterprise system that allows for growth…if I have to choose between “mixing” and waiting on bread lines for food in Castaway land, because all the business have left… sign me up for some “soul food” brother…sign me up, cause I’m going across the river.

Can I field this one castaway?

That said, I think this thread may be in the wrong forum.

Another blanket statement…means nothing, like his responses to the Amish example. We have real world examples of what happens when a community loses it’s businesses or tax base…a slow lingering death. That is the economic reality and it’s not going to shift and change.

I would like some real answers, not the usual generalities…

Apparently it’s a given in this debate. Of course such an economic reality fart would require that all resources somehow become unlimited and universally available to the point where wealth had no value. I wouldn’t hold my breath.

This means you disregard the proximity rule of Genetic Freedom. A common thing people do. Just because I am a proponent of this particular type of Genetic freedom, does’nt mean discussing Genetic Freedom is always attached to my appraoch on it. Genetic Freedom can just be something that people openly talk about and do, leaving all non-discrimination rules in place as is. The proximity rule will not be heeded, but if people simply openly talk about it they will, at least, not feel like they are “racist” simply for thinking about the genetics of the next generation of kids and enjoy whatever Genetic based group cohesion they wish.

The particular religion that many follow that says every human being should be able to purchase any piece of land upon the planet and no group of individuals on the face of the planet can discriminate on the basis of genetics is a totalitarian position - it’s not total freedom. It bases all freedom upon economics and individuals and discards genetics. It says “to hell with genetics.” The only way people can practice Genetic Freedom is via “secret” communication which is pathetic. Remember, we are genetics… no way around that little fact.

Our minds have only recently (centuries/decades) exited the fantasy based religions - at least many people are exiting them. Unfortunately, many have simply replaced the fantasy of Jesus Christ or whatever other religion with the fantasy of Genetic Equality and that has become their “all one” fantasy religion. They will oppress others who realize this is a fantasy. It’s a pretty grotesque intellectual situation we have upon our planet still. Several people on this thread have shown that.

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[QUOTE=Zakalwe]
So easy you couldn’t even answer it. I’m also interested to see how you jumped to your conclusion, considering that I do believe certain genetic traits have an influence on cultural development (as do resource availability, geography, etc), but whatever.**

Well I apologize then. I’m used to people who literally follow the new fantasy based religion of “we’re all genetically equal.” How did I come to that obvious conclusion? Well, first I believe with a great deal of certainty with all available information that we are Genetic life. I don’t believe any of the Bible fantasy religions. I don’t know anything about the soul but I do believe it may exist and interact with our genetics in some way…

Science shows us that all genetics upon the planet are different. They always change and mutate upon each individual reproductive event. Given that the human race spread to all lands of the earth, only a fool cannot logically conclude that the genetics will change according to the different environments, and due to relatively isolated reproduction over many, many millenia. With different genetics, life will manifest differently, period. Culture is a function of genetics, environment, and the history of the people. Any person can adapt to other cultures, obviously. The human mind can be programmed quite nicely.

Hypothetical:
2 small islands are inhabited by two different groups. The islands are reasonably similar in resources, geography, latitude, and population. The group inhabiting Island A has light olive skin, the group inhabiting Island B has very dark skin. The two groups are aware of each other, but don’t interact. Please offer your thoughts as to any differences in culture that can be tied reasonably to the difference in skin color.
For example, Island A develops a religion based on sun worship and Island B on moon worship. This is because…

These analysis are easy, for those who have time to do them and I do not. I abstain because I only have so much brain power to go around and I dedicate it to my job, my research into Genetic based nano-materials, growing fruit trees so I can enjoy natures finest, and a few other things. For me to do this analysis I’d have to dedicate all my time to research sociology and anthopology for a couple of months to get to the level of masters or doctor in that field, then I could accurately speak the speak. I do have enough intelligence to know when an anthropologist or sociologist is full of something with their comments that Genetics are irrelevant. That particular issue is so blatantly part of an “agenda” is not worthy of debate.

Anybody who attempts to remove genetics from a discussion of human culture or any human activity is, literally, insane - because they themselves are genetics. It’s Genetics AND the environment stupid - a good bumper sticker!

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[QUOTE=holmes]
I can’t help myself…So Castaway let’s say Mr. Smith is about to default on his mortgage…according to you he can’t sell his home to whomever he can and avoid a life altering event; for the “good” of the community, he has to take one for the team so to speak and end up broke and homeless.**

Your example is based on a civilization that is economically sick. You could argue that loans are simply to provide interest to those who are retired and all that… but in reality it feeds the top of the gigantic financial pyramid that binds this world and drives it policies. People would not have mortages in this community. Your arguments rely upon people who are confused and in need… healthy communities self solve those types of problems, people help each other. Perhaps you don’t quite get that. That’s what I’m trying to create here, healthy communities of people. That you work against this reveals your character crystal clear for those with eyes that see clearly.
Ok, the bank forecloses and the home is now the property of a large corporation…do you have laws in place to prevent The Corporation from recouping their investment or are they too subject to Genetic Freedom

Twisted economic systems will not drive human genetic flow, Individual decisions will. Economics will be removed from playing God upon the human genetics of planet Earth.
How do you expect businesses to survive or invest in your homeland, when any decision must be “committee” approved and can be shouted down, even if it goes against the financial well-being of the community?

Economic realities could adjust very, very easily to a world that is free to genetically branch openly. It’s really not a problem. Think more creatively.
Are you a socialist or perhaps more of a communist?

Some Jews and perhaps some other non-christian ellites of the world started then propagated communism and a bunch of disgruntled Russians who hated the upper middle class decided to join them in toppling the Czar and killing tens of millions who didn’t follow their communist religion. nuff said.

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I only ask because your whole agenda goes against free enterprise system that allows for growth**

Economics would easily thrive, grow and adjust to a world that is free to Genetically branch, in fact the boom in econmics would be beyond anything before seen. Genetic Freedom would enhance economics - but then Genetic Freedom requires a human population intelligent enough to comprehend it… yes that’s the problem.

Economic realities are going to have to shift and change… some things are learned as we do them. Sure we can map it out precisely… but I dont’ wish to waste effort doing that. I’m just pushing the concept of Genetic Freedom and the rest will fall into place.

Economic shift and change as needed… always… just like life changes…