Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while. If they’re saying that chimps should not be kept as pets, they’re absolutely right. They’re still wrong about lots of other things, but they’re right about that.
I think my cats would probably maul any PETA loons who tried to deprive them of their staff.
The important thing is that you gave me an opportunity to be a pedantic jackass. I so rarely get to be that.
Or maybe he did and he’s just really bitchy. “WE’VE TALKED ABOUT THOSE &@#&$y @#$ING BANGS!”
Okaaaaay that’s about the most terrifying thing I can think of.
But they don’t have ten-fingered hands. They have five-fingered hands like humans.
I know what you really meant. I’m just pointing this out in jest. I’m surprised nobody else picked up on that. Or maybe I just lack the tact gene.
Sampiro:
I blame stupidity by the chimp owner first and foremost for this incident, and then of course the devil, George Bush, and the Jews, but the media’s on the list somewhere. They go out of their way to anthropomorphize apes into a cross between adorable little scamps and dogs. Ellie May’s chimps on Beverly Hillbillies come to mind (you saw them in sailor suits and hillbilly outfits and they never seemed to get bigger and you never saw them humping Duke or throwing excrement at Jed or saw them sense anger and rip off Mrs. Drysdale’s left boob in a state of rage), or Lancelot Link (where Bernie Kopell lost three of his testicles when one of the chimps watched the dailies) or episodes of other shows where due to some convoluted circumstances the (usually teenaged) main character has to take a chimp home and it gets into trouble but of the adorable kind more than the spreading feces on the wall and killing the neighbor’s baby.
When I was a kid I used to love to watch the Berosini Orangutans on talk shows and benefits (and IIRC they had their own short lived show). Then some years later, by which time I’d mostly forgotten about them, and while they were still raking in big bucks in Vegas, a tape was leaked showing Berosini backstage beating the bejeezus out of the apes. I’m surprised that he still has a face, but I suppose they were sufficiently scared of him. He still kept his career for years, but mostly in Branson and in a traveling act, and he earned millions. (One of his graduates from his act was Buddah, who played Clyde in the Every Which Way but Loose films and according to allegations was seriously abused including by baseball bats; in interest of fairness, Eastwood used the same tactics to get a good performance and funny faces out of Ruth Gordon in the same movie, but the difference was it was at her request.)
ETA: Disturbing video of the Berosini abuse and other primate “trainers” (not a joke, the real thing). I’m not sure if it’s true that the chimp’s “smile” is really fear, but it’s definitely not “that’s funny”.
I used to think that shows featuring trained chimps and orangutans were hilarious, but I couldn’t watch that Berosini video. Not after watching “Orangutan Island” on Animal Planet and noticing how Lone Drescher-Nielsen is taking care of nearly 700 orangutans and trying to return them to a truly wild existence. It was heartening to see she has been granted new land, nearly 12 times the size of the original island, in which to turn the orangs loose. It’s not nearly enough, but such an existence has to be preferable to mugging for crowds in Vegas and at circuses and being routinely beaten and intimidated into performing. I’d rather see them in their original habitat, now, exhibiting natural behaviors, or at least as close to one as we humans can provide after destroying so much of the jungles they depend on for their survival.
Annie-Xmas:
It’s all the victim’s fault. She had an new hairdo and the chimp didn’t recognize her.
ETA: PETA doesn’t think dogs, cats, hamsters, or fish should be pets. PETA doesn’t support the Seeing Eye/Hearing Ear dog program. PETA doesn’t suppor thte Vachss dog program training dogs to help victims of child molestation.
PETA is stupid. And evil.
Where are you getting some of this nonsens. I am not a big supporter of PETA, but they absolutely have no problem with pets (although the founder of PETA isn’t a supporter, PETA itself has no problem with it). They, do of course have postiions against puppy mills and breeding in general.
Gangster_Octopus:
Where are you getting some of this nonsens. I am not a big supporter of PETA, but they absolutely have no problem with pets (although the founder of PETA isn’t a supporter, PETA itself has no problem with it). They, do of course have postiions against puppy mills and breeding in general.
PETA's uncompromising, unwavering views may be controversial, but they are always true to our driving mission: to stop animal abuse worldwide.
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Well, PETA does say that they believe it would be better if we never had had pets to begin with but now that they’re here, we should treat them responsibly. Not so radical, except for the fact that they believe that originally, domesticating animals was a huge mistake.
Here’s what PETA has to say about pets:
PETA's uncompromising, unwavering views may be controversial, but they are always true to our driving mission: to stop animal abuse worldwide.
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We at PETA very much love the animal companions who share our homes, but we believe that it would have been in the animals’ best interests if the institution of “pet keeping”—i.e., breeding animals to be kept and regarded as “pets”—never existed. The international pastime of domesticating animals has created an overpopulation crisis; as a result, millions of unwanted animals are destroyed every year as “surplus.” This selfish desire to possess animals and receive love from them causes immeasurable suffering, which results from manipulating their breeding, selling or giving them away casually, and depriving them of the opportunity to engage in their natural behavior. Their lives are restricted to human homes where they must obey commands and can only eat, drink, and even urinate when humans allow them to.
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Contrary to myth, PETA does not want to confiscate animals who are well cared for and “set them free.” What we want is for the population of dogs and cats to be reduced through spaying and neutering and for people to adopt animals (preferably two so that they can keep each other company when their human companions aren’t home) from pounds or shelters—never from pet shops or breeders—thereby reducing suffering in the world.
Here’s what PETA has to say about working animals:
http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=133
Working Dogs
Relationships of mutual respect and benefit are truly wonderful between dogs and humans; however, working dogs are instead often used as a substitute for innovative non-animal programs that intelligently address human needs. Sometimes working dogs are used in situations that are considered too dangerous for human beings—and therefore too dangerous for animals. They may be treated cruelly in preparation for and during their lives of servitude. Some people love their working dogs, but others don’t, which means that working dogs cannot count on having a home where they will be treated well. Also, some working-dog training programs contribute to overpopulation by breeding their dogs (with the notable exception of programs for the deaf, which rescue dogs from shelters).
When working dogs become too old to work, they may be separated from their human companions and either “retired” to another family, returned to the training center, or even killed. Optimally, humans should be relied upon for support of the disabled rather than working dogs and other animals—it is too common for animals to be exploited and abused.
the family of ms nash has filed suit against ms harold.