Genre Fiction Mafia

Well gosh.

First of all, congratulations Dr Hirka!

Secondly, that bomb gave us a barrage of information, and possibly the kick up the arse we need. Of the two remaining claims: I believe Inner. Maha, now confirmed as Town, backed up Inner’s claim to have blocked him. Given that Astral was also blocked the same night, it seems that Inner was telling the truth about his action. On Tom Scud, I’m less convinced. I don’t have anything suspicious to point at, but as far as I can see, Tom’s power has given us either information already available, or info we can’t confirm. I’m also a little surprised that he’s been left alive by scum.

However, I’m going for the obvious one here. Normal had pushed and pushed at Silver Jan, and eventually got a lynch. Then she turned her attention to nesta. Then she was killed when there were claimed power roles floating about. Couple that with the safe vote record and

vote nesta

Okay; have re-re-read everything, and then came back and found that Stanislaus had again made my argument for me.

Whatever else is true of Normal, she’s got a damn fine scum-sniffer.

vote: Nesta

I agree with this assessment; the only point I would note is that the lack of reveals does point towards a coroner role being present in the game. Also, I did know about the mass redirect to Mahaloth, although in theory I might have written my post about this in the handful of minutes between Astral’s post and mine on Day 3 I think it was. (Though I would have probably had that info as a scum player, assuming scum day-talk, in any case).

I agree that the lack of reveals makes a coroner likelyl however there’s nothing saying there can’t be a scum and a town coroner. If the the town coroner snuffed it early on in the game, there’s no one to counterclaim Tom. I rate that as improbable, if only because I’m unsure of the benefit a scum coroner really gives scum. Marginally more likely setupwise is a town coroner and no scum coroner and they took a risk on the town coroner being dead when they claimed. But I really doubt Tom would have made that risky a gambit.

Well, a scum coroner and a dead town coroner (or no town coroner) would give the scum a nice source for fake power role claims.

Soooo…

Weedy’s dead, Tom.

But yeah, not a lot going on, with four votes on nesta.

This is because a) nesta is Town so Scum are happy to follow along; b) nesta is the last Scum; c) nesta is Scum and the remaining Scum is/are happy to bus rather than kick up a fight.

Vote order:

Tom - power-role hasn’t given clear confirmation. (Although there are good arguments for the existence of such a role). Will need to re-read.
Inner Stickler - power-role seems to be confirmed. Did block Maha. Could be scum roleblocker only if Tom is lying about Silver Jan. But then who blocked Astral? Can’t really see a way he’s scum.

Early votes are unlikely to be bussing. (Could be Scum on Town though). Why push
nesta under the bus when there are other potential candidates?

Stanislaus - make up your own mind.
SisCoyote - fourth vote. By this stage, bussing is a definite possibility.

I’m half-tempted to see if I can make a case on someone else, just to add a little conflict to the day. This is worryingly cosy.

I hope to complete my review of nesta’s posts this evening. I’ve got to the end of Day 1.

But first a job application. See you later.

Oops.

OK, now I 'm confused as hell (and feeling a little slow for not seeing this earlier).

  1. Inner is a paranoid doc, whose targets cannot act:
  1. Zeriel killed Normal:
  1. Inner targeted Zeriel.

Why was Zeriel able to act?

Apparently Zeriel was being honest about his power, which was that any non-killing action targeting him would be blocked.

Which makes him a Godfather role, of sorts.

I disagree; he’s more like a Scum Strongman, in that he can “kill through” any protective power (though with the added bonus of being also immune to watching, bombing, etc). A Godfather is undetectable as Scum by normal means.

Although…was he immune to bombing?

I have confused myself.

Interesting question, and probably one that will have to wait until the post-game wrapup. Depends on whether “attaching a bomb that will eventually kill you” counts as a “killing action”.

Nesta – a quick overview

34 posts at time of writing.

I’m not going to list all of them, so don’t try and reconcile later. I have a general policy on these reviews that, if one post quickly follows another, and is an amendment or addendum to the one it follow, I treat it as if it had been part of the original post.

Pregame : four posts. Look them up yourself if you’re desperate.

Day 1 sees 13 posts. Five of them (475, 485, 489, 524 and 525) are not related to this game.
Post [post=13836829]227[/post]. Pushed case on Astral and his misunderstandings.
Post [post=13842347]391[/post]. Asked Astral if he could act Night 0.
Post [post=13842592]394[/post]. Questions Pleo about Astral.
Post [post=13842703]395[/post]. More pressure on Astral arising from 393, an answer to 391.
Post [post=13847219]476[/post]. Queries the use of “Calvin game” by Silver Jan.
Post [post=13849268]523[/post]. Turns attention (and voting heat) on Fubbleskag.
Post [post=13855450]602[/post]. Continues to build Fubbleskag case.
Post [post=13855663]604[/post]. Challenges a statement of Gnarlycharlie’s.

In the remaining eight, he’s focussed on two players, Astral Rejection and Fubbleskag. My impression was slightly tilted towards the Town side of things at this point.

Day 2.
Post [post=13873616]773[/post]. Trying to work out why Ed was killed is a WIFOM exercise.
Post [post=13873919]776[/post]. Categorises Gnarlycharlies’ self-vote as antitown. Asks why he’s adamant he won’t unvote.
Post [post=13885610]873[/post]. Votes for Gnarly over Hirka, on the grounds that Gnarly is more
concerned about self-image than he should be.

Night falls with no further contribution. Nesta did note that he was busy during the period covered by the Day. I felt his participation was light, compared to that of the previous Day. It’s the sort of thing a player on any side could do, though.

Day 3.
Post [post=13899118]960[/post]. Summarises the claims that happened in Day 3, then tries to draw some conclusions.
Post [post=13899125]961[/post]. Asks who Zeriel directed [post=13899027]959[/post] at.
Post [post=13899341]962[/post]. What he was thinking about night 0 actions, and why he grew suspicious of fubbleskag.
Post [post=13911951]1069[/post]. The very last post of the Day, a vote for Texcat. The justification seems slim; it fails to acknowledge the benefit to Town of Texcat’s claiming.

That’s the end of Day 3 for nesta. I was a little twinged by nesta’s vote, but not much else.

Day 4.
Post [post=13925672]1181[/post]. Analyses claims to date, and cconcludes that either we’vebeen unlucky or are power-role heavy. Proposes mass claim.
Post [post=13925684]1182[/post]. Points out an omission in Normal Phase’s claim list.
Post [post=13933536]1259[/post]. Claims Evey Hammond, vanilla Slumlord.
Post [post=13937591]1305[/post]. Is against wasting a lynch on pedescribe. Turns attention to Silver Jan, points out she criticised Gnarly for self-voting and then did so, waffled and adopted an “aw shucks” style. Votes in 1307.

Again, nesta makes the last post, this time about 40 minutes before Dusk, rather than 8. While Day 3 had some feel of “last-minute” to it, 40 minutes is plenty of time for people to have seen the post and responded.

The vote has a strong bandwagon feel to it. Silver Jan’s lynch was pretty inevitable by then. That being said, any vote at that point would attract criticism; if nesta had voted for (say) Tom Scud, he’d have come into criticism for placing a one-off vote.

Day 5. nesta was AWOL for the entire Day. After making the last post in Day 4, he does not post again until Day 6 is under way. That, given the events of that Day, makes me wonder.

Day 6.
Post [post=13960200]1472[/post]. Denies any knowledge of a Cunning Plan of Winston’s.
Post [post=13960303]1473[/post]. Asks IS for a summary of reasons for IS’s vote. Notes that he failed to respond to Normal Phase before the end of the Day.
Post [post=13960635]1475[/post]. Responds to Normal Phase’s case against him from the previous Day.
Post [post=13960652]1476[/post]. Responds to Inner Stickler’s reply to his 1473.

That’s it.

The thing that raises a red flag for me is something nesta didn’t do. He didn’t post at all on Day 5.

Out of curiosity, I went and dug up some timestamps. Dawn was announced in post [post=13946496]1339[/post] at 12:13am on 23rd June. Winston’s explosion was in post [post==13952738]1397[/post] timed at 3:41pm on 24th June, less than 40 hours into a 120-hour Day. It’s quite possible that an ALE-drinking nesta chose to keep his head down rather than try and defend Winston, and then got caught by the hammer before he could get a plausible vote in for Winston.

On the other hand, he might have been caught by the hammer falling, which was less than 12 hours after Winston’s explosion, and on a Saturday; post [post=13955147]1441[/post] was at 1:53am the next day.

(Before you ask, all times are BST.)

If I vote now the hammer falls, and there’s someone I want to at least peer at before the end of the Day. Give me an hour or so.

I had a quick look at the posts of the other player I was getting a ping from, but I couldn’t adequately articulate what made me suspicious in a couple of hours, let alone present it in a reasonable format.

I’m going to adopt a “no names, no pack drill” policy for now.

I can be content with a lynch of nesta, mainly because of the failure to post in Day 5, although that suspicion was mitigated by the speed with which the hammer dropped.

Vote nesta

Sorry I didn’t get back to post Today. I did pass the Microsoft certification exam I’d been cramming for, so that’s good.

I think that’s hammer, so I don’t think I’m supposed to post game content, since I’m dead and all. I didn’t have much insight anyway.

Go Team!

Yes, but which one?