You have found it to be true that all men are rapists?
I’ve been saying for a while that the “Me too” hashtag was near a tipping point where people would roll their eyes at how overly wide “sexual assault” was being redefined and I think this is the point.
Am I reading the article wrong? Because I read one person making one accusation of an attempt to fondle when he was too drunk to give consent (possibly passed out or sleeping) that stopped when he said no. Both adults at the time. So far at least I am not reading multiple victims and a pattern.
Me either.
There is something going on in the interview below that doesn’t sound too healthy. I suppose we’ll have to wait to see if any further allegations come to light. That is how these cases have tended to play out in recent times.
Could be a blackmail via “out-of-court-settlement” thing.
I apologize for my comment. I was feeling unusually negative, after hearing so many of these allegations. It stirred up some bad, bad memories, and I reacted badly.
No one is redefining anything. What was described would definitely be sexual assault. The question is simply what exactly happened. Fondling a passed out person is definitely sexual assault.
You sound to me like you think sexual assault isn’t a real problem, and thus we’re going to soon run out of actual assaults and have to cover other things. But this is absolutely ridiculous. One in five women are sexually assaulted in their lifetimes. We had threads about this. It’s just often something women don’t talk about. My mom had been, when she was younger.
There is no shortage of actual cases, and thus no reason that we will get to some eye-roll level The real danger is having one that turns out to be not real, and that used to discredit everyone. Or, and I hate to say this, bringing Trump into it: because then the Trumpheads will feel a need to discredit everyone to exonerate Dear Leader.
I think you’ve got the wrong takeaway here. That avalanche of #MeToo is troubling not because everyone’s jumping on the bandwagon, but because everyone *can. * Because such a damaging experience is so damned common, because probably half the women you know and some of the men have been through similar things, and your response is to complain that it’s all too much to hear about, rather than it’s all too much for people to have to experience.
The incident, if true, is legally defined as sexual assault. Are you familiar with US Law? The victim was incapacitated and touched without consent. Nobody’s redefining anything.
Are you sure about that? Multiple victims came forward to accuse Sarah Good of witchcraft, but that didn’t make her a witch.
Wanna be technical? It’s not defined as sexual assault everywhere. Each state defines things differently. In my state sexual assault would be what most people would call rape. “Fondling” would most likely be criminal sexual contact depending on exactly what happened
Scott Brunton’s a man. Do you feel he’s a rapist?
I’d like to hear George’s account.
These two were on a date. Had a few drinks and went back to George’s apartment. He misread the signals. George made a sexual advance that was not welcome. He stopped and his date went home.
I’m not seeing a lot to be outraged about. Unless more people come forward with similar allegations about date nights with George.
The public needs to be very careful about vilifying everyone who misreads the signals on a date. Especially when the person stopped when asked and sent his date home.
Whatever happened to No means No? George respected that and acted accordingly.
Yes, actually, I do have some technical questions. In the case of mental incapacitation, would the prosecution have to prove that the defendant knew the victim was incapacitated? Or would the fact of incapacitation be enough?
George just posted a statement on his Facebook page. Pretty weakly worded in my opinion. In one sentence he says he doesn’t remember meeting the accuser. The rest of the statement reads like meaningless fluff to me.
She apologized for her comment, FWIW.
He doesn’t have an account. He says he doesn’t remember.
yep. both times I did jury duty (both of them CSC cases) and was called down for voir dire, the defense attorney(s) hammered on this point.
I think some guys believe this stuff “cancels each other out” or something.
Are there others accusing Takei? The link in the OP is to the story of just one man.
No, my takeaway is that the revelations are getting less shocking, and that the subjects of the progressively less nefarious revelations are not the rulers of Hollywood, but the bit players and the no longer influential.
I’m familiar enough with it to notice when due process is being bypassed. Instead of feeling smug that Weinstein and Spacey are seeing their chickens come home to roost, I think people should be asking “Who benefits from I Love You Daddy going unreleased?” or “Is my 401K financially entangled with this growing list of affected film studios?”