gerikel: slow on the uptake

[Monty]

Until your last post in this thread, I was going to give you a friendly pitting, a sort of joking pitting as a welcome. But, no! You had to be stubborn in your silliness. So you’re going to get what you apparently earnestly desire so much.

Now, it might’ve escaped your notice, so I’ll tell you once and once only: the GQ forum isn’t for opinion, it’s for factual answers. Now, there is a wonderful place on this board for opinions. You can do it, I’m sure; go ahead and click on the Forum Jump menu at the bottom of the window. You’ll see a number of choices, one of which is In My Humble Opinion. That’s the place for your opinions. Oh, and don’t even try bitching to me about what’s what on the boards after you pulled that inane stunt in the linked thread about me ignoring the registration agreement. (I, in fact, have not ignored it.)

As for your rally cry of “Trust me,” that obviously belongs in yet a different forum on these esteemed boards. Feel free to click on the very same Forum Jump menu. Cast your eyes on the choices provided and you’ll discocer the MPSIMS forum. That, btw, is an abbreviation for “Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share.”

As for your claim to education: I see no evidence thereof. You mentioned that you’ve been to college. So what? I’ve been to the Naval Academy and also to the United States Military Academy. What I haven’t done is attend either one. Your piss-poor “command” of the English language and obstinate refusal to learn jack are dandy indicators that you might’ve gone to a college but have not attended it. Now, you very well might’ve attended a college, but my guess is you’ve decided not to name the place to save your alma mater a tad of shame.

Okay, maybe you’re not obstinately refusing to learn jack, maybe you’re just stupid. Or lazy. Could be both.

Here’s the posting of yours that’s capped your effort to get Pitted (I shall insert my comments in italics so those of little sense may follow what you’ve posted and what I’m posting here*):

proud of prejudice? are you speaking of my dislike for the southern accent?

Exactly! You got that in one.

that’s like me being a neo-nazi with a jewish religion.

Actually, it’s not. Your comment that it is, though, does invoke Godwin’s Law.

i’m just saying i’m not the only one in the south that thinks southern accents aren’t desirable.

Actually, what you said was, “there’s nothing good about a southern accent.” That’s not saying that one or two or so folks despise the accent. It’s a positive assertion that the accent itself is despicable.

it’s a FACT that people, in the other regions, have mocked those from the south and used the accent to imply lesser degrees of education.

Still wrong. (You’re pathetically bad at this assertion supported by proof thing, apparently.) The fact is that some people in those regions mock the accent and certain aspects of the culture.

i know what people think (because i have had it said to my face before) that people in the south (particularly the state in which i reside) don’t wear shoes and marry their syblings. and while this says nothing directly about the accent, when you speak with a southern accent, people know you are from the south and may assume the aforementioned circumstances.

You almost got that correct with your use of the word “may.” When I speak with my natural accent, many people ascertain that I resided for quite some time in Dixie.

]trust me,

This is absolutely invalid as a proof, especially after you’ve proven your “authority” on the subject of the South is worthless.

i’ve been up north and have gotten the “you mean y’all wear shoes down there” (in an obvious mocking souther accent) more times than i can count. it gets old. and my point is that people can be prejudice about southerners or any other region just as they can be about those of different races.

So, what are the statistics involved? Was it everyone you met or merely a handful of people who were just pulling your leg? Heck, I’ve lived up North also and only a couple of people pulled that joke on me. Nobody in California’s done it so far. I guess the folks here are ignorant on the matter. :rolleyes:

i live hear, i know we wear shoes and that people don’t inbreed, so how i can i be prejudice when i am educated on the matter?

The evidence of your prejudice (or shame, take your pick) is present in your postings on the subject. As I said in the linked thread, I resided for quite some time in Dixie and have no shame in my accent. I do manage to communicate in different accents depending on which register I use, of course. That’s how language works.

[Monty]

Crap. The very last paragraph in the OP above should be in italics.

[samarm]

I was reading that thread earlier, and I also found it hard to believe that gerikel had attended college. The spelling and grammar is consistently atrocious. Not to mention the intelligence and thought put into the posts.

[gerikel]

*Originally posted by samarm *
**I was reading that thread earlier, and I also found it hard to believe that gerikel had attended college. The spelling and grammar is consistently atrocious. Not to mention the intelligence and thought put into the posts. **

Since I am apparently now on the defense about every post I have made to this thread, shall I defend myself once again? I don’t think that the fact that I refuse to punctuate on a message board has anything to do with my intelligence. I’ll admit I have never taken a typing course and learned to type writing emails to penpals. I also do not take the time to proof read like I should. I understand this also serves to confute my ability to communicate like someone with a college level education.

“Not to mention the intelligence and thought put into the posts.”
I think that most of the misconceptions have come from my countinuous generalization of other regions of the US and their opinions of the South, a mistake MONTY has made me wish I never made.

Maybe I am oversensitive about the steroetypes that are placed on the South by some (not all).

I can, however, assure you all that I have indeed recieved 7/8 of a college degree. Actually, I am a double major and will graduate this December (only 3 1/2 years after I began college). I have attended school with more than a full ride for acedemic achievement and will graduate with a 3.96. I have taken 18 hours every semester and have also worked 20+ hours a week, while still keeping up a rigorous social life. I will also be attending Northwestern in the Spring to obtain a Masters. I guess you can take it up with them if you doubt my abililty as a student.

Just to set the record straight, I am not an idiot, regardless of how I have presented myself.

[Monty]

Presenting yourself intenetionally as an idiot just for chuckles isn’t all that appreciated by the board management here. <===That’s what’s known as “friendly advice” although you sure as heck don’t deserve it.

And I don’t give any more credit to your assurances than I did before your posting above.

[samarm]

gerikel: I never called you an idiot, its just that basic grammar and punctuation errors are a pet peeve of mine. If you say you do attend college then I believe you, whatever your posting style. Sorry if I came across a little harsh in my post above.

Also, welcome to the boards. I guess you’ve had a tough start here, but I will look forward to more of your contributions. This board is a great place to discuss, debate and learn.

[Monty]

And Gaudere’s Law strikes!

“Intenetionally” above should, of course, be “intentionally.”

[gerikel]

I don’t think I will be making anymore contributions to the board. I ddn’t mean to lash out on your comment, it’s just that Monty has been giving me hell all day about my apparent ignorance (beneath ignorance as he says). I can understand that grammer and punctuation errors can be annoying, but you won’t have to worry about them anymore. I didn’t intentionally present myself as an idoit. I just wasn’t aware that I would catch so much hell for being careless with my typing.

I’ve brought on the criticizm myself, i know that. I just can’t believe that a silly question I had this morning would have me in tears tonight beacuse some ‘holier than thou’ member decided to pick on the new girl. BS.

[jackelope]

gerikel, your newfound use of punctuation and capitalization is extremely refreshing after I read the linked thread. Imagine listening to someone with marbles in their mouth and the difference it makes when they take them out; same effect on how seriously one’s statements are taken.

As a Southerner who has been accused more than once (on this board and elsewhere) of being hyperdefensive about Southern stereotypes, I still find your arguments in that thread poorly formed and carelessly worded. Have you spent much time on other message boards, with laxer intellectual standards? This board’s members can be unforgiving, but I see that as a very good thing; it’ll sharpen your arguments and your writing. The Unwritten Rule (after the Main Rule) seems to be, “Think. Then post.”

[VarlosZ]

I don’t think you understand Godwin’s Law, Monty. To have invoked it, gerikel would have had to compare you or your opinion to the Nazis (or a Nazi opinion). She did no such thing.

I read the thread in question, and gerikel’s opinions seem awfully harmless to me. She doesn’t like her southern accent (her prerogative), and she recognizes that many people outside the South look upon a southern accent as a sign of ignorance, or stupidity, or a lack of culture. Maybe she doesn’t meet your standards of boundless pride in the way she speaks, but that’s really none of your business.

Finally, picking apart every single line of a person’s post is no way to reach any sort of understanding. It’s just not helpful, and when people do it to me, I think they’re being jerks, too.

[VarlosZ]

And gerikel: some posters here tend to be unduly contentious; in my opinion, Monty is one of them. That doesn’t make him a bad guy, but it means he’s an annoying person to disagree with. Sorry you had such a bad time here.

[Klaatu]

Er, Varlosz you seem to have confused Godwins Law with Gauderes Law.

Godwins law states “As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.”

Gauderes Law basically states “If one gives a poster shit about a spelling error, said poster will commit a spelling error in the next post.”

[Klaatu]

And I am sure I mangled that somehow.

[Mama_Tiger]

One last piece of friendly advice, gerikel: If you write your posts in a program that has a spell checker, then cut and paste the text in here, maybe you can start to catch some of the many spelling errors that are in even your properly punctuated and capitalized sentences. There’s just no excuse for rampant misspellings in this day of spell checkers.

If you want to get anywhere with that fancy education once you get out of school, you’ll have to make sure you know how to watch for accurate spelling, especially on resumes and cover letters. I can promise you that friends in HR assured that resumes or cover letters with typos generally went all to the same round file sitting on the floor. This is a good place to practice writing carefully, accurately, and well. Take advantage of it and it will help you out when you get out into the real world. You can learn a lot from the folks here.

[Delly]

Gerikel, coming from another newbie, Monty hardly acted in a holier then thou way. Ive only een here a few months but if Ive een it once Ive seen it one hundred times, General Questions is about fact, its not a plce for opinions really, I think that was his main gripe regarding your posts.

And I was the same as you when I started here first, never bothered with grammar and punctuation, and I spelt phonetically too, that was until I got into the same sort of argument as you have…

Stick around the board and youll see that its not always like this, and youll probably see Monty as being an ok guy… I cant actually say whether he is or he isnt, dont know him from the next poster!

And also, if I may say, get some thicker skin, that sounds bitchy, but its not meant that way. This thread is actually quite tame, and if you can get teary over this… well be thankful your not the subject of some of the other posts in the pit.

Anyway…
D.

[VarlosZ]

Klaatu:

Er, Varlosz you seem to have confused Godwins Law with Gauderes Law.

Godwins law states “As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.”

Huh? What I said was:

To have invoked [Godwin’s Law], gerikel would have had to compare you or your opinion to the Nazis (or a Nazi opinion). She did no such thing.

How is that confusing it with Gaudere’s Law? (BTW, Godwin’s Law is not invoked by the mere use of nazis in any comparison; in keeping with the spirit of the law, rather, the “other side” has to be identified with a nazi or nazi ideology – e.g., “you know, the Nazis had gun control laws, too.”)

And I am sure I mangled that somehow.

Actually, “Godwins” and “Gauderes” should have apostrophes in them.

[VarlosZ]

. . . and I forgot to capitalize “Nazi” three out fo four times. Gaudere’s Law rides again.

[jjimm]

Don’t go, gerikel - stick around and learn how the board works. I think you’ll enjoy it here.

A lot of people’s first experience of Monty (including mine) has been of him being exceptionally abrasive. Eventually you’ll realise that’s just his manner, and you can ignore him or get pissed off with him. Don’t mind him.

Having said that, be aware that if you make prejudicial or sweeping statements on this board, you really do need to have the facts and the figures at your fingertips. In that way, Monty was right in pulling you up, though the manner in which he did it leaves a lot to be desired.

[Mockingbird]

As I’ve had the sad duty of grading papers at OSU and in a few other institutions, his spelling and grammar are not as bad as many if not most.

I found it disheartening to see how poorly students often represented themselves in their written work. At times I had to get up, get a glass of wine, and go outside to smoke.

I just couldn’t handle one more incorrectly punctuated, ineptly written, poorly spelled paper.

[Typo_Negative]

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it’s a FACT that people, in the other regions, have mocked those from the south and used the accent to imply lesser degrees of education.

Still wrong. (You’re pathetically bad at this assertion supported by proof thing, apparently.) The fact is that some people in those regions mock the accent and certain aspects of the culture.

The poster offers no proof of this, and neither do I, except to say that I have seen this done many, many times. Some people do use the fake southern accent to mock southerners as uneducated.

Or did I miss the point of what you were saying?