How can it possibly be fair to apply the same rules to everyone when everyone is different?
Once someone has made their personal brand of “uniqueness” clear you can customise the rules for them.
I have no idea how this applies to VC03 because I’ve not been paying attention, but if the Mods have it comes down to how much you trust them.
That would work well in the offline world in governance.
Like I said, it comes down to Trust. The whole reason we don’t let Government customise the rules is we don’t trust people with power.
At one end of the continuum you’ve got Government, prone to abuse and filled with power hungry people. Don’t trust them.
And on the other end you’ve got parents.
If you hear a kid ask “Why do I have to go to bed at Six when my Brother gets to stay up till 8 ?” you don’t think of parents abusing their power.
It makes sense because they know their kids.
Mods and bosses and everyone else with authority sits somewhere in that continuum. It comes down to trust.
But we don’t pay our parents to tell us when we should go to bed.
It has its precedents-remember handy being forbidden to post in any medical threads, or on any sort of medical advice?
I don’t see this as being a rule solely fabricated against VCO3 as much as it is explaining an existing rule – “Don’t be a jerk” – with a specificity that he, apparently, needs.
So what about this part from the OP link:
I may be misreading this, but I interpret it to be a rule solely fabricated against VC03.
Did the rule against handy making any posts in medical threads also upset you?
Your link ends at “No matches to your search” You need to link to the actual thread.
Isn’t returning to one’s own thread just common courtesy?
I wasn’t aware of that, but THIS one doesn’t upset me. I think it’s deserved. But I’m just curious how twickster could interpret it as anything other than a rule promulgated for a single individual.
Not defending VCO3, but I do think it depends on the forum. I would think it bad form not to return to a GD or even a GQ thread you start. But the Pit is used to vent. You get something off your chest. It doesn’t always need to be a conversation.
No, but perhaps sometimes. The problem isn’t that VCO3 did it once, but that it was a pattern. A pattern, I might add, consistent with the behaviour of people who post from underneath bridges.
The link was a cached search ID. Apparently it gets deleted after some time, there were several threads to be seen.
Here is a pic of what you should have seen.
I dunno what you mean. The rule is quite clear:
My point: we really don’t want to have a twenty-four volume law code to define our rules.
And, in this situation, the word “rule” is perhaps misleading. How about calling it “terms of probation”? That seem more fair, more individualized, more case-specific?
You’re not unliked. There are just a bunch of dildoes here.
My initial reaction to this was the same as the OPs. On the other hand, I do remember that VCO3 once stated in a pit thread that he had no intention of coming back for discussion. I can’t remember now which thread it was, but I will try to find it later when I have more time. He basically said that he felt like ranting, did so, and didn’t feel the need or desire to talk about it with anyone. I think that the mods are feeling like this is a violation of the spirit of the SDMB, and I’m guessing It’s this stated intention not to return that has earned him this new rule.
It is utterly apparent to any thinking person that:
-this is complete bullshit
-precedent doesn’t make something right
-nothing has ever been more selectively applied than the ‘don’t be a jerk’ rule
The bottom line is: this place is far more interesting with VCO3 than without him.
But who has the energy to keep spitting into the wind? It’s more sad than anything at this point, watching this community crushed under the weight of its self-importance.
So there’s a rule made for one guy, big deal. He could have just as easily been banned had Giraffe been in the mood for blood but instead the rules of the game were modified for one player so that they can keep playing a little while longer. I have no problem with the idea with making your bed and having to lie in it. If he wants to do dumb shit, then he has to deal with the responses in the thread.
I agree. This is why I wanted to be very careful not to imply a general rule change in dealing with VCO3.
This rule is entirely based on VCO3’s past pattern of Pit posting. Time and time again, he has started threads with titles and OPs written to stir people up and then ignored the ensuing discussion. Whether or not you believe his intent is good or to troll, the effect is the same and it’s bad for the board. Besides, it’s not like he can’t start threads any more, he just can’t start hit and run threads. Hardly an onerous burden.
I mean I guess it’s somewhat of a jerk stunt to pull by not coming back but to me it seems to fall under the category of Netiquette. It’s an unwritten rule of conduct but you can’t have official action taken against you. If I walked away f n rom a conversation in real life the other person would be annoyed but would have no reason to call the police.
Personally I only start threads every now and then so I don’t forget they are there. I am pretty scattered though and could see myself and would have no way to remember to come back if I forgot. I don’t like the rules getting more complicated.
