You mean like bitch, cunt, pussy, and whore, or talking about having your panties in a knot, or accusing you of being on the rag if you’re not all joy and sunshine? If I got the vapors every time someone said or wrote that shit, I’d have no time or energy for anything else. And yes, I find the “We’ll decide when you’re sorry enough, thank you very much” tone of the statement to be off-putting.
I’ve now lost all respect for Brett Ratner because it turns out he didn’t really bang Olivia Munn.
Yes, exactly like that. The ubiquity of those terms doesn’t make them less repulsive. You aren’t obliged to get vapors about anything anyone says, but if you called someone on that kind of language, I would be right behind you.
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I know this organization has other more important shit to deal with than the big mouth of one person. Let the gays in immediate vicinity deal with the issue. It’s not necessary for GLAAD TEAM SIX to engage every dipshit who’s ever been on TV when there are plenty of real battles to be fought in the fight for equality.
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Surely that’s their call, not yours. For the record, I’m not particularly offended by Brett Ratner. He is clearly a jerk and not worth anyone’s time or energy.
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Especially when your average gay guy seems to drop the fag bomb into as many conversations as he can. I realize that’s an “our word” versus “racial epithet” situation, but GLAAD should be working against that too.
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This has not been my experience. But I lead a sheltered life.
Roddy
It creeps me out when someone implies that the targets of hateful language are in the wrong (stop being so whiny!/butthurt!/prone to vapors!), while the source of that language gets a pass because, well, it happens all the time!
And yet if someone complained about the use of such obviously sexist language, I’d think the problem lay with the person who decided to say such things, rather than with the person who held them accountable for saying them.
I’m pretty sure that if it was the word ‘nigger’ and the NAACP instead of GLAAD, this pitting would not exist - or it would be pitting Ratner and not the people reacting to him.
Yeah, but that wouldn’t happen. “Rehearsing is for niggers” doesn’t even make sense!
Most Awkward Segue Ever: Eddie Murphy has now stepped down as host of the awards…
Excellent, GLAAD’s plan for world domination is moving ahead splendidly. First Bret Ratner, then the Oscars, then the world…
It’d be a great excuse to have Neil Patrick Harris host the Oscars. And a reason for anybody to give a crap about the Oscars.
Wait, we don’t already dominate the Oscars? That just doesn’t seem right…
Are we still talking about the Academy Awards?
Oscar is butthurt!
Dude, first things first: are you LGBT? If not, you don’t get to decide how people who are are allowed to react to slurs used against them. It’s minor to you, but there’s plenty of people out there are very much hurt by the use of that word. Because secondly, the reason this is a problem is that it’s not just some casual throw-away comment. I wish we lived in a world where we could say whatever stupid shit we liked and the worst consequences were that somebody with too thin a skin got upset. But it’s not like that. Whether you want to believe it or not, when people casually use slur words like that against oppressed groups, especially people who are media figures (however you want to define that), it contributes to enculturated beliefs in our society that people belonging to that group are less. And for LGBT people? You better believe those beliefs are still around. And they are prevalent, and they fucking hurt people every goddamn day.
Some dude can’t say a derogatory word against an oppressed group of people without consequences. I am crying a thousand tears for him.
But he totally says he did! Except she wasn’t Asian at the time. :dubious:
GLAAD has no authority over this dude so whatever he does, he does because he, or more likely his agent, feels its in his best interest. Now, maybe you could get irritated about a world so thinskinned that people feel it’s necessary to make public apologies but frankly, whatever gets people to stop saying hurtful crap is fine by me.
(And I don’t believe in forbidden words. I don’t refer to myself or any other gay people by language I would be offended by a straight person using. It seems to me to be the most sensible idea.)
Gawd help 'em if they ever decide to push Charlie Sheen around.
I’m beginning to think this Brett Ratner fellow isn’t a very nice guy.
He gave up the chance to produce the Oscars over THIS?
GLAAD must have dug up some SERIOUS dirt on him.
Control the language, control the people …
I hate to equivocate, but maybe he meant that gays are really well-prepared, and that as a hetero, he didn’t have the organizational skills to rehearse? I ran that by a gay friend (who hadn’t seen this in the news yet) and his reaction was a big “meh” - apparently, some see a distinction between fg and fggot - the former gets a bit more slack than the latter.
I fully support gay rights, and fight discrimination against gays wherever I see it. But that statement really bugs me. If I were ever so insensitive and stupid to use any kind of slur at all, I would like to think that I would be the one to decide when I had atoned for my mistake.