Glee: 2.11 "The Sue Sylvester Shuffle" (open spoilers)

Head’s up, Glee returns tonight after the Super Bowel. This is supposed to be the most-expensive episode of Glee so even it’s complete crap it should have lot’s of impressive dance numbers. Also Katie Couric is guest starring.

It was complete crap.

Did like the stage zombie number in the beginning though. And ninja poops. But everything else was pretty awful and once again they just randomly changed the character personalities of everybody.

Pretty impressed that they were able to hold the opposing football team to 24 points in the first half, especially with Finn and Puck off convincing the girls and the other players for the last few minutes. Mmhmm.

The hockey hair on all the hockey team players made up for a lot of the rest of it, in my opinion. :smiley:

I thought it was meh. I enjoyed the music performances but even for Glee, a lot of stuff was just too out there. Not one teacher mentions the slushie? Ever?

Nope, but it was nice to see the footballers get slushied for a change (have we even seen the hockey team before?). And girls on the football team? :wink: I guess in a universe where a paraplegic can play anything’s possible. The Kurt & Blaine stuff was very obviously added at the last minute; they need to get Kurt back at McKinley. I wonder how Sue’s going to cope with the loss of Quinn, Britteny, & Santanna? Other than Becky those are the only Cheerios who have names or know how to speak.

It seems odd that a lot of people still don’t “get” this show. A lot of it is a blown-up, and over-the-top version of high-school. It’s not even remotely meant to be a realistic portrayal. It’s not just “high school, but with songs!” It’s a full-blown musical in every sense. Everything is exaggerated, and you let things slide fro the sake of the music, dance, plot, and jokes.

So while in a regular high school you have bullying, it is never to that extent (without serious consequences, at least not anymore.) But at McKinley, they just get a “stern talking to” that bullying isn’t cool, and as punishment you do a song and dance number.

IO loved it. The zombie make-up was actually pretty good, especially Artie. He looked creepy as fuck. I wasn’t familiar with the song that was mashed up with Thriller, but it seemed to fit pretty well, and the first zombie number done on the stage was good, too.

I “get” the show. I even said while watching, “I’m willing to suspend my disbelief, but c’mon now.” Bieste didn’t even mention it once.

Oh, I do love Brittney S. Pierce. Easily my favorite character.

Funniest scene, for me at least:

Puck: What happened man? We used to be best friend?
Finn: Well, you got my girlfriend pregnant…then you made out with my other girlfriend.

Absolutely. The characters practically say as much in the show (like today when Will was talking about how great the football players did in the song number that they were just going through for the first time {wink wink}). They’ve winked at the camera any number of times in the past; you just have to go along for the ride, or the show would drive you crazy.

I didn’t like this one. First, have we *ever *even seen the hockey team before? And it felt like a retread of the episode where the football players danced to Beyonce’s “Single Ladies” in the first season. Plus, Katie Couric interviews Sue because she didn’t win a competition? Not to mention the whole “girls on the football team” thing. It just seemed even *more *over-the-top than is normal for Glee, like it was supposed to be a standalone episode that didn’t fit in with the regular story of the show (like the Treehouse of Horror specials of The Simpsons, for example.)

Also, I’ve never heard the song that the Dalton guys were singing before, but weren’t the lyrics about them dumping a guy? Are we really supposed to think that that entire school is gay?

I did like the zombie make-up though. Artie was *really *creepy. (Though I did wonder how he could possibly sing with fake teeth & prosthetics…)

I didn’t like this episode very much. I’m okay with the usual absurdity of the show, but they just threw so many impossible things into this episode that it seemed like they were trying way too hard.

Also, the Chevy commercial thing was stupid. I realize it wasn’t part of the official episode and that there may have been many people watching *Glee *for the first time, but that was a recycled storyline from season 1 (when they made the mattress commercial and almost got disqualified from competition because of it). There’s no way the kids would have just forgotten about that.

If I were trying to convince someone to start watching Glee, this definitely would not be an episode I would recommend.

Well, there was plenty of stupid in the episode, but not that. Sue suggests doing a Chevy commercial, the kids imagine what the commercial would look like, and then Rachel immediately says, “No, that would destroy our amateur standing” or whatever. The Chevy commercial was intended to be a fantasy sequence.

Or so I believe. It is getting a little hard to distinguish between “fantasy” sequences and “real” sequences in Glee these days.

I agree with your first point about the football team. They’ve already done singing bit, so this shouldn’t be a stretch for them. But it’s a well worn tradition when covering a song that someone else of a different gender wrote and sung originally, to not change the lyrics out of concern that you will sound gay singing it. You’ll notice that the song, besides obviously having been sung by a woman, was also pretty obviously sung by a black woman, but despite there only being two black Warblers, they didn’t try to rewrite the song as white.

Yeah, I don’t mind so much the suspension of disbelief, but the erasing of continuity is a bit much.

OTOH ignoring the rest of the series, it was a fun episode.

What I don’t get about this thread is the overwhelming shock at girl football players. I mean, really folks?

  1. They were just stand in players to make the team have a quota to be able to play. They could have had sock monkeys as long as they were registered students.

  2. I thought it was a well known fact that for many years, any school sport team that does not have a corresponding women’s team must let girls play on the boy’s team (assuming they pass tryouts). This isn’t even made up like Artie being on the team.

  3. The wrestling girl probably would have made an actual decent player.

Exactly. Otherwise, the full orchestra or rock band or whatever that kicks in when they start singing would drive you nuts. Or the fact that they are always complaining about their low budget, but they have near-Broadway level costumes and makeup. Or that no one wants to join Glee Club, when in fact in most high schools lots of kids would love that stuff.

Jane Lynch was great last night. She has that character down, although IRL if she were to destroy an office that way she’d be punished somehow.

I like the show. It’s entertaining. And I’m willing to suspend my disbelief a lot for entertainment.

HOWEVER…

So the Cheerios were getting pulled to attend a regional competition. When in the annals of high school sports did it ever then become the TEAM’S responsibility to produce a halftime show, and why would the lack of said show have any impact at all on the actual game itself?

The guys were playing for a championship and should have been in the lockerroom at halftime, trying to figure out how not to continue having their asses handed to them rather than scrambling to entertain the crowd and convince the o-line to re-join the glee club.

Other than that, how many Ms are there in the letter R?

Bills Bills Bills by Destiny’s Child. It was an interesting take on it, having all the guys make the instrumental sounds. I did wonder about the lead singer who actually is gay singing about his good-for-nothing boyfriend - isn’t that a little on-the-nose for conservative Ohio?

This definitely isn’t on my short list- it seemed too much like they were making it up as they went along and not doing a great job of it. The entire football lineup was super lazy writing, and the attempt to show layers to Karofsky was futile. (So he has some talent? So he’s tortured on the inside? Good. Until he does public penance and either takes a bullet for Kurt or gets 39 lashes well laid on he’s not pitiable.)

Sue was too over the top in her cruelty, same as the Grinch episode, and even though the show is a fantasy nobody would ever let her get away with that rampage, especially Bieste who could pulverize her with one arm and while remaining seated.

Not one of their better efforts to me.

I was being sarcastic; my niece played football (though she stopped when she got to high school). My school also did an annual all-girl touch football game with the actual football team as cheerleaders. The joke was that none of the firls had ever played football before; even Coach Bieste was reluctant untill it was pointed out that they didn’t have to do actually do anything. I thought the same thing about the large girl.

BTW, did anyone else notice that Kurt said he & Finn still lived together and he brought Finn a glass of warm milk every night? :dubious: I guess that rules out Kurt being a boarder. That must be a hell of a commute.

Not to mention: boundaries. Sounds like Kurt is still pining for the Kurt fjords.

The rumor on the streets (street people being almost unanimously obsessed with GLEE) is that Kurt and Blaine are going to kiss in the Valentine’s Day episode. I hope so as it would be a lot more interesting than anything this week.

Also, the song they did on stage in the make-up, “She’s Not There” was originally recorded by… The Zombies.