Glee: 2.18 "Born This Way" (open spoilers)

I have a feeling that after Glee Colfers going to be one of those rare actors who can convincingly play teenagers into his 30s.
One thing that really bothered me about Rachel and her nosejob was that she never even mentioned her fathers or would they approve. There was a line about them being a few minutes away from the ER (or did she go directly to a plastic surgeon :confused:), but nothing about the nosejob itself. Then again it does seem like they just blindly give her anything and everything she asks for. Plus one of them is Jewish and apparently all Jewish girls get a nosejob a few years after their bat mitzvahs.

is quinn vs rachel the new (and better balanced) ginger/maryanne? it’s a downright even split into quarters who i think is hotter: santana, brittany, rachel, or quinn. sunshine/school counselor/ex-wife/paltrow to boot? it makes it easier to defend that i watch glee “just for the hot chicks” to my friends. one of my other friends has the same excuse for watching “the hills” but that’s just silly.

This episode has possibly turned me off Glee for good. First of all, the episode is all about being “born this way” and embracing who you really are. The creator of the show (Ryan Murphy) also says this crap all the time.
I knew that when they sang “Born This Way” they weren’t going to sing the “No matter Gay Straight or Bi…” part. Just because it’s not “tv/family friendly”. Kinda goes against the whole point of the episode meaning.

Also, they made SUCH a huge deal about Kurt and Blaine kissing for the first time, yet it was the 2nd gay kiss on Glee.

Ryan Murphy has a show which isn’t about diversity, it is about cheap tokenism.

The After-School-Special-ness of the show is definitely dragging it down.

So is everyone in the glee club gay? I guess I shouldn’t find that so hard to believe. :wink:

Same. I’ve been sick of the Emma/Shu thing for a long time now, that whole “homophobic bully is a closeted homosexual” thing is too obvious, and I couldn’t get into Rachel’s whole Jewish nose job saga. Sometimes the show smacks too thoroughly of “Look at us! We’re tackling the serious issues.” Sing, dance, and make with the snappy little witticisms.

I can’t see getting upset about a couple of lines being cut from the song when this series has no less than five recurring gay/bi teen characters. That’s pushing the envelop a lot more than just singing a few words. And frankly, I think “Born This Way” would be much improved if all the verses were cut.

It was actually the third gay kiss on Glee, and who’s “they”? The commercials for that episode made a big deal about how the show would be doing original songs for the first time, but I don’t remember there being even a hint that Kurt was going to get his first consensual gay kiss. (Not even one of those “mature viewers” warnings they used to put before episodes with gay kissing back in the '90s.) It was a big deal to viewers of the show and the writers/actors were asked about it in interviews afterward, but IIRC this wasn’t something that was officially hyped in advance.

I don’t really disagree with this, I just don’t think the gay characters are the cheap tokens. Kurt is the only major character who’s been written with any consistency this season, and neither Santana nor Karofsky had any depth until the writers decided to make them gay. But the writers clearly have little idea what to do with their black or Asian characters, or with female characters who aren’t crazy.

Cop-out.

There’s a character who is a slutty, Hispanic, closeted lesbian who has HAD a boob job (and the actress has obviously had some facial work done too- her lips are getting scarier every week) and Will doesn’t think SHE should maybe learn some self-acceptance via an earnest conversation and heartfelt musical number?

Maybe he was worried she’s cut him with one of her hair razors.
Oh, and I love Mike Chang more every episode.