Glee: 3.05 "The First Time" (open spoiler)

My first mutual masturbation, oral sex, passive anal, and active anal where all different occasions, with different guys (& yes they happened in that order, between the ages of 14 and 19). Personally oral & anal count as sex; handjobs don’t. I highly doubt Glee is ever going to delve into specifics of what Kurt & Blaine are doing, or who’s doing what. Even with clever euphimisms this is still network, not basic cable. Also I’ve the shy way Karofsky said “Apparently I’m a bear cub”. :slight_smile:

Was the “uptown girl” a teacher at Dalton? I know that Glee isn’t logical (esp. during songs - when people can teleport to different locations) but I’m wondering if she was anybody or just somebody teleported in for the song (probably the latter)

Brian

The story with Mike Chang and his disapproving father seems like a tired rehash of every Dead Poets Society/Billy Elliot story ever. Yeah, his father will eventually come around; but the show has paid so little attention to Mike that I honestly don’t care about him. If the show had put more effort into Mike’s character other than “he has abs, he can dance, he dates Tina, and walks around with a confused expression most of the time”, it might have more impact.

Not sure, but I got a “school librarian” vibe. Didn’t she try to shush them at one point?

Anyway, pretty much all I liked in the ep was the gag with Bieste being all clueless about the guy hitting on her.

When did Finn start calling his mom by her first name? When Rachel came over he said “Burt & Carol” were off doing something not “Burt & my mom”. That felt odd.

I completely forgot about Irish McIrishy until he showed up to sing his one line in an Irish accent, which is weird because last time his songs didn’t have that accent, just his talking.

No Sue? Barely any Shu? Too busy trying to be a “very special” episode to work anything in for them, I guess.

The Blaine/new Warbler subplot was beyond stupid, oh gee his replacement is hitting on him, I wonder if he’ll actually go for it :rolleyes:

Also agree with what was already said about Artie, he was way out of line with Rachel and Blaine.

Speaking of out of line, drunk Blaine in the backseat had me hoping Kurt would just dump him. It wasn’t quite there, but push it just a little more and it would’ve had an attempted rapey vibe.

I know it was just intended as a throwaway joke, but Puck doesn’t use protection? Holy fuck, maybe for their next very special Glee they can have him come down with an STD and find out Beth isn’t his only kid.

His mom made him get a vasectomy last summer.

I could see that as being a natural thing as the family blended. Kurt was probably calling Finn’s Mom Carol as they were dating, and Finn was calling Kurt’s Dad Burt. As the two guys speak to each other, it would be awkward for for one to be referring to “Mom and Burt” as the other one said “Carol and Dad.” I could see them compromising on the common ground of “Carol and Burt.”

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Just one of the “perfect” touches - the small town Gay bar. Finally they show what most non-hip, non-urban areas have to offer; a mix of average and bizarre characters who go to these local bars (especially the horrible drag queens, being this is “Drag Night”). They didn’t turn it into the usual unrealistic multimillion dollar Studio 54 disco pavilion that most shows try to re-create. They didn’t fill it chock full of gorgeous male models. For Kurt and Blaine, this was indeed a mini-paradise, but at least they showed how many (if not most) small town area Gay bars really look.
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Also the guy at the door barely checking I.D.s and looking the other way when it’s fake is true to life. They’re stricter on weekends usually, but during the week when it’s slow and there aren’t as likely to be any cops coming by it’s a bit more lax.

Small town gay bars rarely have any real competition; having even two in a city of 100,000 or less is rare. Consequently they don’t tend to spend much on decor or “talent”. (I never understood the appeal of drag queens until I went to bars in D.C. and New Orleans where the drag queens actually perform rather than just badly lip synch.)

I also was afraid they were going to re-create Babylon from Queer as Folk (which people I know who’ve lived in Pittsburgh say there’s not even a gay bar like that [that large/that wild/on an all gay street] there).

I hate being “that chick” when I ask this question, but I’m curious anyway. … wasn’t it a tad irresponsible to have all the prominent members featured having sex?

Don’t get me wrong, I’m very impressed that they didn’t cop out of it for this episode (like they did for the Very Special Issues on shows I watched as a teenager – I’m looking at you, Growing Pains), but just like its asinine to think everyone’s all innocent, isn’t it equally so to have everybody experienced before they leave high school?

If I were a kid today, I’d want the choice in my popular entertainment to feel each side was represented. So that way I wouldn’t feel alone in the decisions that I make. Or am I too old or over-thinking this? Help!

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Don’t get me wrong, I’m very impressed that they didn’t cop out of it for this episode (like they did for the Very Special Issues on shows I watched as a teenager – I’m looking at you, Growing Pains), but just like its asinine to think everyone’s all innocent, isn’t it equally so to have everybody experienced before they leave high school?
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So far as we know Mercedes is a virgin. But otherwise, everybody’s getting laid but Mr. Schue (and no one’s getting fat except Mama Cass), which is a tad unrealistic.

That’s a good point. I could totally buy Rachel becoming obsessed with the idea that she didn’t have the right experience to play the role. Or if Artie had to be involved the same thing could have been accomplished in a much less inappropriate manner. For instance, he could have suggested that it might help Rachel and Blaine’s performances if they thought back to the first time they’d each had sex and drew upon those feelings. Then they could have gotten embarrassed and Artie could have said something like “Oh, I’m so sorry, I just assumed since you’ve been in relationships with your boyfriends for so long.”

I’m a librarian myself, and yeah, she definitely struck me as your stereotypical sexy but uptight librarian character. She tried to shush them, she was carrying a big book, and she was wearing a pencil skirt and glasses and had her hair pulled back.

I was really afraid for a minute that we were about to have a Very Special Episode about date rape. I agree that they kept it from going over the line, but it was pretty close and definitely made me uncomfortable.

Since they said Blaine only had one beer I was actually expecting it might turn into a different Very Special Episode about date rape, and that it would be revealed that Sebastian had slipped something in Blaine’s drink. But I guess Blaine just gets drunk easily. You’d think he’d have learned his lesson back during the Very Special Episode about teen drinking. I was glad that Kurt at least gently reminded him later that he had a history of making bad choices while drunk.

The Parents Television Council was publicly objecting to this episode before it even aired for this very reason. (Also the Culture and Media Institute, but they were obviously upset mostly because there was gay teen sex.) But while I understand there are good reasons not to glamorize teen sex in the media, teen sex has been a part of Glee from very early on. I don’t see any reason to start worrying about it now if one hasn’t before. Almost everybody else in New Directions had already had sex prior to this episode, and there was nothing in “The First Time” that was any more explicit than what we’ve seen before. IIRC this is also the first episode where sex has been depicted as part of a healthy, loving, monogamous relationship. I’d say that’s more responsible than the many episodes where characters used sex as part of a scheme to gain status or manipulate their partners.

Well, Glee is only one show. Even with their huge cast of characters they can’t represent every type of kid or all the valid personal decisions one might make.

I did!

I think she was supposed to be a teacher, but definitely was given the “hot librarian stereotype” vibe. She was carrying a Beginning French textbook, or something like that, so I figured French teacher (of course).

I also rolled my eyes at Rachel and Blaine singing from the sheet music at rehearsal … seconds after it was said the show was just “days away.”

Loved hearing ABC’s *Poison Arrow *at the gay bar! Although Frankie Goes To Hollywood might have been more spot-on. :smiley: And how could Blaine have walked home all the way from West Lima?

All in all, I thought this episode was very sweet and nicely meshed with the West Side Story stuff. Yeah, I do have my doubts about basically glorifying sex between high school students, but … Romeo and Juliet did that first a long, long time ago (speaking of West Side Story). And also making it better was the lack of bitchy girl-singer drama - I did not miss that one little bit this week.

It was nice to see Mercedes in the audience and enjoying the show. Also, even though she left New Directions, Santanna was still in the show.

Brian

This hasn’t quite finished airing in the UK, but I already know I love it, I love it, I love it! Best episode of glee in ages.

It helps that West Side Story is probably my favourite musical, and they didn’t kill it (though Puck was hilariously bad - was he supposed to be?) but I also loved Tina talking about her first time (so nice to see a teen sexual relationship that isn’t full of angst and drama) and I adore Kurt and Blaine. I shall be most upset if Kurt gets his heart broken.

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I’m a librarian myself, and yeah, she definitely struck me as your stereotypical sexy but uptight librarian character. She tried to shush them, she was carrying a big book, and she was wearing a pencil skirt and glasses and had her hair pulled back.

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I’m a librarian also and you just described what I wore yesterday to a tee. (Today I’m in fringe and leather.)

I wonder if any GLEE cast members will turn up on (same creative team produced) American Horror Story. It’d be nice to see Chris Colfer play an evil ghost or Jane Lynch play a kick-ass excorcist nun.

It has now finished, and I love it even more. Those last couple of scenes made me all misty-eyed and nostalgic for being young and having “firsts” - first love, first time…

And I’m very impressed with the show’s creators for affectionately and honestly portraying the things teens, of whatever orientation, want to do together, without making into a morality play, and with the network for showing it.

Well, there could still be kids out there he doesn’t know about from before then. And that wouldn’t help for STD (as I hope I don’t have to point out to anyone here!)

He just went around the corner and Apparated himself home.

I have been wondering all season where it is that Blaine actually lives, and where his parents are. We’ve now seen his bedroom and it seems like he does live in the general Lima area, but mama and papa Anderson remain a mystery. Blaine mentioned not having a good relationship with his father back in the sex ed episode in season two, but otherwise there’s been no reference to his family at all. Until now this hasn’t seemed that strange, but this week he 1) staggered home drunk, 2) starred in his school play, and 3) brought his boyfriend home for sexy time. It seems odd that there was no mention of how the Andersons reacted to any of this. Did they come to the play? Were they at home while Blaine and Kurt were having sex? Do they even know their son has a boyfriend? It’s starting to seem suspicious that no one ever says anything about them.

My theories:

*Blaine’s parents didn’t want him to transfer to McKinley, so he murdered them. He’s been putting on a Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane “Oh, they just stepped out” act ever since.

*Blaine’s parents died of natural causes many years ago. Blaine himself is aging backwards like Benjamin Button, which is why he’s only a junior this year.

*Blaine has no parents. He was created some other way, for dark purposes that have yet to be revealed.

Did the local men’s a capella group sing any Hits of the '80s at you? :cool:

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I have been wondering all season where it is that Blaine actually lives, and where his parents are. We’ve now seen his bedroom and it seems like he does live in the general Lima area, but mama and papa Anderson remain a mystery. Blaine mentioned not having a good relationship with his father back in the sex ed episode in season two, but otherwise there’s been no reference to his family at all. Until now this hasn’t seemed that strange, but this week he 1) staggered home drunk, 2) starred in his school play, and 3) brought his boyfriend home for sexy time. It seems odd that there was no mention of how the Andersons reacted to any of this. Did they come to the play? Were they at home while Blaine and Kurt were having sex? Do they even know their son has a boyfriend? It’s starting to seem suspicious that no one ever says anything about them.
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It’s been pretty well established that Blaine is an ancient pagan harvest god who has been on the land now occupied by Dalton at least since the mid 18th century and used his song to enslave the populace. His “parents”, such as they are, most likely serve similar functions in the Old World. (Unable to function without him they seem to have raised up some incarnation of the saint and S&M icon Sebastian to serve as their new leader; the show down will be interesting when it comes.)

Although, Lea Salonga did say she’d be willing to play Blaine’s mother in a recent Advocate interview (Criss’s real life mother is Filipino), so perhaps they’ll retcon.

I’m surprised that in all of the gay plots on the show they’ve never introduced Rachel’s fathers. You’d think they’d step in when there was gay bullying in the school or to lend avuncular guidance to Kurt, but apparently they’re total stay-at-home gays. (I still favor Brian Stokes Mitchell and Nathan Lane if they ever do appear, though I’d accept David Cross as a substitute for Lane even if he doesn’t have a musical theatre background.)

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Did the local men’s a capella group sing any Hits of the '80s at you? :cool:
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No, but hardly surprising. Their voices are only so powerful without microphones, and my having to keep 100 yards away at all times is a barrier to our relationship.

I still like the theory that Blaine never talked to Kurt. Blaine was just a popular boy that Kurt became obsessed with and built the entire relationship in his head.