bump
Why bump it?
Lets just let it die a natural death.
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Well, you’re European, so I suppose you’d know about public sentiment. But what exactly is an “ally” or a “friend”? When’s the last time France has done squat for us?
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I would suspect the last time would be right now, since there are french troops operating in Afghanistan.
Apart from that, france was involved militarily along with the US during the war in Afghanistan itself, the war in Bosnia, the Gulf war…
Concerning minor joint franco-american military operations, you could add the evacuation of westerners in both Ivory Coast and Liberia during the last year…
Paul in Saudi you are a fucking idiot and a monumental asshole. The main problem with democracy is people like you and we still defend the right of idiots like you to vote so just shut the fuck up you moron.
Erm, sailor…unless you’ve got some other statements you haven’t linked to which clarify Paul in Saudi’s motives, I think you’re overreacting on that one. Paul might be equating the two cases…or he might be providing grist for a debate. Me, I’m reserving judgment pending further info.
Paul’s motives seem pretty clear.
Well, I am sorry but a person like him who:
a) says “The majority of Spanish voters voted in a Socialist government, 'thereby letting the terrorists win” which is a lie and an insulting lie at that.
b) starts a thread implying it may be ok to not respect democratic rule if he does not like the results
c) has posted his beliefs that the government should not be obligated to respect human rights and give prisoners due process of law
is a fucking idiot. And a dangerous idiot. People who believe those in authority know better than the people and should have a free hand are dangerous.
We are discussing here if the Spanish let the terrorists win. Let him come here and show his face so I can spit on it.
In the words of our president "Any sign of weakness or retreat simply validates terrorist violence and invites more violence for all nations.’’
Paul is simply to stupid to realize that attacking another nation on the basis of nonexistent threats is a sign of weakness, and that weaseling, lying and attempting to dodge responsibility for that error compounds the problem.
Excuse me, perhaps I was unclear.
I have no problem with the Spanish voting for the Socialists. Not my country, none of my business. In my OP on the other topic I was using that as an example. I do not hold that view.
Never have.
That is why I used quotes around the final clause of the sentence.
Yes, you were. What with the mob getting all hysterical over Spanish “cowardice” that seemed a particularly poor example with which to start a reasonable discussion.
Sorry.
This is the pit. It was not meant to start a reasonable discussion. It was only meant for me to rant after I heard the results of the election.
I did not post the words that caused such excitement in the Pit. I posted them in GD.
Why my question got dragged (drug?) down here is a minor mystery.
I accept your statement that you do not hold that view and withdraw my words which were motivated by the impression that you did.
But man, use common sense. Your OP in GD gave all the appearance that you did support that view.
You might want to read the forum descriptions then.
OK, with respect to this thread I am crossing your name off the list of idiots. The OP is still on the list though.
I need a smug smilie.
Fucking idiot.