God doesn't seem very Godly to me

As far as we can tell from what you’ve presented here, you are wrong.

That’s the great thing about Truth - there are so many to choose from.

Do you accept there is difference in the level of refreshment between sleep with dreams and deep sleep where you are not conscious of yourself?

Reality is universal. “Truth” is a product of the mind.

I am posting in a thread questioning Religion and God, so there may be discrepancy in my presentation, But please form a conclusion only after reading the subject not through my posts alone.

Where are the studies that show this to be true?

Reality is indeed universal, There are different forms of reality though.

No, I wouldn’t say that there was a difference. I’ve felt refreshed when I’ve dreamed sometimes, and exhausted when I’ve dreamed sometimes. Same for not dreaming. I can’t say there’s been any difference in the quality of refreshment that separates the two.

I can search for the studies and post it here, But let us first have personal account of the same. Dont you feel the difference?

That just happens to be what your religion believes to be “true”.

  1. Let’s see those studies first.
  2. Not really.

"Deep sleep coincides with the release of growth hormone in children and young adults. Many of the body’s cells also show increased production and reduced breakdown of proteins during deep sleep. Since proteins are the building blocks needed for cell growth and for repair of damage from factors like stress and ultraviolet rays, deep sleep may truly be “beauty sleep.” Activity in parts of the brain that control emotions, decision-making processes, and social interactions is drastically reduced during deep sleep, suggesting that this type of sleep may help people maintain optimal emotional and social functioning while they are awake. A study in rats also showed that certain nerve-signaling patterns which the rats generated during the day were repeated during deep sleep. This pattern repetition may help encode memories and improve learning. "

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/brain_basics/understanding_sleep.htm

Not really. As i said, there is no place for “Belief” in my system. I dont have to believe anything, Blind belief is not encouraged in Sanatana Dharma.

And you think this supports your theory? Have you got one that shows that deep sleep plus dreams is detrimental?

OK, I like Santana also, although I prefer their earlier stuff. So we forget this vendetta.

Now let’s see you snatch this pebble from my hand.

First of all this is not a theory. I have experienced it myself and almost everyone who consciously observes the difference between the two can vouch for the same.I have never come across anyone saying that I felt very bad about my deep sleep etc etc. I have seen people complaining about dreams and lack of mental rest due to that. I posted this after cursory search in internet. I can find more papers if I search more.

This is why explanations from the inside are so difficult to understand-indoctrination lead to special terms and definitions that those who are indoctrinated eventually come to think are universally acceptable.

How about sleep with dreams which you don’t remember - which are most of them. My definition of sleeping well is exactly the same as that of Revenant Threshold. Sleep has a physiological restorative purpose - that is why we evolved it, given that sleep is dangerous if you are a prey animal. When sleep fulfills that purpose we feel refreshed and say we slept well. How do we have opinions about mental states were are not conscious of?
There has been tons of research on sleep. If you care about truth perhaps you should read some. So far the only checkable statement you’ve made has been wrong which is not very encouraging. However, you don’t need a PhD in psychology to see the difference between the three states of sleep you mentioned.

Search away. By the way, I doubt very much that you have talked with “almost everyone who consciously observes the difference between the two.” Perhaps you meant to say those in your circle of friends and acquaintances?

My belief system says that ice cream is yummy.
Ice cream is yummy.
My belief system is valid!

Um, no. No one here was doubting that sleep is good for you.