Well, according to Marcion, they all went to Hell.
Which brings us to your second question.
According to Marcion, the god that spoke to Abraham that day was an evil god. Think about it. Would a good god order a straight-up murder just like that? Of course not. So, therefore, Abraham (like Moses, Elisha, etc.) followed the orders of an evil god - and therefore went to Hell when they died.
Things got better when Jesus showed up, because Jesus rocks.
I’ve always felt that God was putting Abraham to a test. And Abraham failed the test. Abraham was supposed to stand up to God and refuse to commit murder just because somebody told him to. But Abraham knuckled under to authority and was ready to do what he was told - he “was just following orders”. So God sighed and called it off at the last second.
Later, the people who wrote the story down missed the point. Abraham was their hero and they couldn’t see that he had made a mistake. So they changed the point of the story and said Abraham had done the right thing by blindly obeying authority.
Imagine how different history would have been if people had gotten the true message. Think for yourself and don’t do something you know is wrong just because somebody else tells you it’s okay.
Oh- I agree about the resurrection for Judgment Day being a standard doctrine, just wanted to point that out about the ‘soul sleep’ teaching being unusual in SBC’s. The usual teaching is that our souls go to Heaven or Hell/Hades until they are united with our risen bodies to be judged for entrance into the New Creation or the Lake of Fire. I have a slightly different take on the nature of TNC & TLOF but that’s another subject.
OMG, yes! There is SO much I run into here & elsewhere on the Net & in real life that testifies to that. Of course, I know that lots of people can have the greatest teachers on various subjects & still come out dumb as rocks.
Really? I thought that Jewish teaching emphasized the “no human sacrifice” aspect of the Binding.
I understand that historically this might have been a major reason for the story, but I assure you that no one in my temple ever went on about the evils of human sacrifice. We don’t have Baal to kick around any more.
No Jew since Adam ever sacrificed a person in the Bible, so it is not something that even needs to be warned against. And Christians are the ones who think God needed a person to cleanse our sins, after all.
Where does Abraham suffer any consequences for having chosen incorrectly?
Abraham, after all, did get to argue with God - see the Sodom story. But he always obeyed. Contrast Moses who didn’t obey to the letter on something less important and didn’t get to cross the Jordan because of it.
Maybe today we’d like this to be a “don’t just follow orders” story, but that isn’t how it was written.
The first is not your issue. You’re just going to have to deal with the fact that God doesn’t reveal everything and certainly not to someone still on this earth. Have faith.
Read the bible and pray on the second. While Abraham’s situation isn’t relevant to you directly, it is a moral question about the value of your own faith. Is it right for you to obey God without question?
Your faith and the Holy Spirit are the tools you have to understand the bible. They’re the only things that will allow you to come to the “correct” solution.
It’s been awhile since Sunday school, but I’ll give it a shot.
If you’re asking where in the afterlife they went to after they died, I think I can give a mainstream Evangelical Christian answer to that.
They went to heaven.
They weren’t “born again”, you’re right, but nobody in their time was “born again”.
Abraham, Moses and Elisha were all Israelites, God’s “Chosen People”. You were born “Chosen” or “not-chosen” by God, and thus there was no way for a “non-chosen” person to become “Chosen” person. However, a sinful “Chosen” person could fall out of favor with God and end up in hell with all the other heathens. To keep this from happening, a good Israelite made animal sacrifices to God as a symbolic gesture of atonement. They believed that the blood of the sacrifice washed away their past sins, making them eligible for heaven (until they sinned again).
Jesus changed the rules. According to Christians*, we now have a “New Covenant” with God. God sent his son Jesus to die on the cross as the ultimate sacrifice, he died for everyone’s sins, chosen or not. Because Jesus died for everyone’s sins *forever *there’s no need for atonement through animal sacrifices and there is no longer a chosen people (unless you’re a Calvinist), I.E. “The Old Covenant” is replaced by a “New Covenant”. Now one can simply believe in the Christian God–become “born-again”–and be allowed to enter heaven.
Google “abrogation of Old Covenant”.
*The Christians I grew up with. Not all Christian denominations subscribe to this theology.
Totally out of character for God; he’s all about obedience to him. And note that if you really believe in an afterlife and take it seriously (and presumably the god that made that afterlife would do so), then there just isn’t that big a deal about killing.
Baal, god of child sacrifice, is very much alive and well today and his temple is at places like Planned Parenthood where children are aborted and thrown into medical incinerators - much in line with scriptures. Scriptures are just as relevant today as the time they portray, they reveal the mysteries of old still happening just hidden in modern society.
Most of the responses seem to be either from atheists picking on you or from people who apparently didn’t pay a lot of attention in Sunday school, so I wanted to make sure you didn’t overlook the only real answer I saw in the lot of them. That would be from Solsolsol just above. It is the plain answer to your first question.
As the question regarding Abraham’s test of faith, I think you know the answer. The very reasons you question it demonstrate its significance.
Of course, I haven’t gone to church in 25 yrs. I respond as a reader, not a subscriber of the Bible. But Solsolsol’s answer is clear enough in reading the New Testament.
I assume you would lump me with the latter, but that’s OK, as I just want to point out it is the personal revelation of God to the person that matters, not the Sunday school teacher.